I was looking forward to trying Sync today now that it’s live, but my enthusiasm was immediately dampened after seeing the “Data Safety” section on the Google Play store.

Liftoff has been great, and want to say thanks for making an awesome app. This will continue to be my daily driver.


Edit: for clarity, because the post got way bigger than I expected.

Sync looks like a fantastic app, and the dev/s should charge whatever they feel is fair for their efforts, even if that’s through the usual ads + ad tracking.

My intent was just to post here in /c/Liftoff to thank the Liftoff devs for managing to somehow offer an awesome app without any of that.

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    It’s like people are trying to misinterpret.

    Liftoff is strictly using Lemmy’s free API and for the developer 5 users or 5M users doesn’t make a difference to his expenses.

    The Sync developer is obviously trying to do something more ambitious.

    It’s great that we have FOSS apps that do a decent job but we shouldn’t look down on developers who put a lot of time, effort, and money into something expecting to make a return on their investment.

    I don’t like data collecting either but I accept that if you want to offer a free version - it’s inevitable. What I hate is when you’re not able to pay for ads to go away.

    But I might be biased as I’m a developer myself and would hate to put 8-9 weeks of hard work into delivering a great app and then get hate for wanting to get something in return for that work.

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      You’ve been able to pay for ads to go away for about the last 16hrs, the update to B25 dropped last night.

      The original plan was not to release version like that until it was more polished, but the masses have spoken and been listened to almost immediately.

      In terms of data collection, LJD is literally just bothered about Crashlytics.

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      The Sync developer is obviously trying to do something more ambitious.

      Hm, what exactly? It doesn’t seem to have any particularly remarkable features 🤨

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        Sounds like you didn’t actually try the app. It’s super fast and smooth. Lots of customization, great UI. I happily pay for that effort.

        Sync will surely make the lemmy ecosystem more attractive and bring in a ton more people, which is a great thing for everyone here whether you use the app or not.

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          Ok, so I have been trying out Sync… and well, yes, the UI is slightly better, but most of the “fancy” stuff is only in the paid version… which is kind of steep for stuff I could wait a year or two without.

          Most interesting feature I’ve seen, is the search function, but it still fails in many places, so that’s somewhat bittersweet. Curiously, it’s one of the free ones, so… well, I guess I’ll leave it installed for a while and see how things go.

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          More people isn’t great. It’s how social media begin to sink. It was like this on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, etc.

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              There is an optimum. But, the more is the best isn’t true for communities and social media.

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                Maybe, but we are waaaay under that “optimum” right now, so for now the more is the best

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                  Optimum doesn’t mean a lot or infinity. It varies from community to community and social platform to social platform.

                  Reddit peaked sometimes ago. But Lemmy is not reddit and it’s not focused on the grow.

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        Tons of more options and a faster and smoother interface. And moving subscriptions across instances is coming. And it has cloud sync.

        But I agree, it’s quite pricy for the extra bells and whistles.

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          Migrating accounts across instances is a pending Lemmy core feature, the server part has to sort that out.

          Liftoff’s interface seems fast and smooth to me, only thing I might be missing is some sort of “multireddits” or Mastodon-like “timelines” to sort things out a bit better, but using multiple accounts kind of works too.

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          moving subscriptions across instances

          The language on Sync Ultra is “Import / export subscriptions (Easily move between instances)”

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            Well yeah, but I think the apis are enough. There are already utilities using those apis to copy subscriptions.

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      “Something” is $115 for the lifetime subscription. I paid $35 for the same thing 13 months ago, and it was $3 before that. He didn’t exactly build the app from scratch either. It’s greed, so I’ll be getting the cracked version on Mobilism as soon as it’s released

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          You don’t think it’s unusual that he’s more than tripled the price of Ultra? After selling a “lifetime” sub 13 months ago? This is a total swizz