• @istanbullu@lemmy.ml
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    311 month ago

    Bush Jr should have been convicted for mass murder. Obama should have been convicted for drone strikes.

    • @Zink@programming.dev
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      451 month ago

      I’m not disagreeing with you, but at least those awful actions are plausibly covered as a presidential act made in the country’s interests. I’m not saying they were good for the US, just that they could argue that was the process.

      Trump’s shit is all self-serving and against the interests of the United States.

      • @istanbullu@lemmy.ml
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        11 month ago

        presidential act made in the country’s interests.

        If your country’s interests require committing mass murder (like Bush Jr or Obama did), then your country is an awful evil place.

        • @Zink@programming.dev
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          61 month ago

          I cannot disagree with you there!

          That’s mostly what I meant by this sentence:

          I’m not saying they were good for the US, just that they could argue that was the process.

          Even if they make the worst, most destructive decisions that most of their constituents disagree with, it’s still a presidential act. I assume they can’t be charged in the US. Might be different in an international court, but I think we refuse to recognize their authority or something, because U-S-A! U-S-A!

      • @Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
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        -71 month ago

        Mhhh yes lying about WMDs in Iraq to bomb the entire country to rubble and steal their oil. That’s a lot worse than bribing a porn star

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          1 month ago

          I’m sure it goes without saying, but legal wrongs and moral wrongs are very different things, like in this case.

          The argument would be “I’m immune because it’s a presidential act” and not “I did the right thing.” Kind of like how cops get away with horrible shit because of qualified immunity.

    • AbsentBird
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      1 month ago

      I agree, but apparently presidents are immune from prosecution for anything done in office. I really hope that can get overturned, but it’s the current state of the law.