• @spujb@lemmy.cafe
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      81 month ago

      yeah grabbing the hammer is a remarkably wise plan as far as self defense in this hypothetical

      • @RealFknNito@lemmy.world
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        -71 month ago

        Wonderful, then you’d agree we should get rid of all hammers then too right? Clearly it’s the fault of the tool, not the one wielding it.

          • @RealFknNito@lemmy.world
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            -71 month ago

            Yeah it’s hard to stay consistent when warped logic is applied to different scenarios. I’ll spell it out for you, Mr. White.

            If a murderer uses a hammer to murder, you don’t ban hammers, you go after the murderer. So then why when the wealthy use the police as a tool, you try to ban police, instead of going after the wealthy?

            • @spujb@lemmy.cafe
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              1 month ago

              breh you asked what we do if a man hits me on the head with a hammer

              my genuine immediate reaction would be to wrestle the hammer out of control of the man

              but for some reason you think that my first reaction, being in imminent danger of immediate injury and death, is to start canvassing the neighborhood? gathering signatures to ban hammers from the local Lowes or something? meanwhile the guy with the hammer still has his hammer and is beating the shit out of me. i actually would not do that.

              i’m being quite consistent where you are being quite silly 😛

              edit: also no one said “instead” but you. pardon me for not taking this seriously i just don’t care (about your messed up hypothetical; i care deeply about institutional violence)

              • @RealFknNito@lemmy.world
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                -41 month ago

                I’m not asking for your emotional or instinctive response to the situation, I’m asking you who you hold accountable. Your response seems to hold a tool (hammer/cop) instead of the thing that used it to hurt you(criminal/wealthy).

                Yes, you don’t care, I get it. You can’t engage with serious shit so why the fuck are you responding? There will always be another tool, always be another way to hurt people, stop fucking focusing on the tool and go after the person using it. So exhausting trying to teach morons unwilling to learn.

                • @spujb@lemmy.cafe
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                  21 month ago

                  oh ok well when you put it that way :)

                  cops aren’t hammers they are people. the wealthy aren’t hammers either they are people.

                  so both. i’d hold both accountable.

                  • @RealFknNito@lemmy.world
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                    -21 month ago

                    Again, cops are just doing their job. You want to change what their job is, you need to go after the people giving them that job. You aren’t going to topple a critical pillar of society, law enforcement, because you think it’s corrupt.

                    For the last time, eat the rich, stop getting distracted.