Inspired by gregorum’s post concerning issues with startrek.website, which is ironic as lemmy.world is a bit glitchy right now and isn’t letting me upload and had to use my alt here.

  • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.eeEnglish
    131·
    4 months ago

    Trek is gritty as FUCK. TOS was quite gritty with ww3, genetic wars, khan… TNG had roving rape gangs. DS9 had apartheid space nazis. Disco is quite tame compared to the darker tones of DS9 by FAR. I think even behind the comedy, Lower Decks is darker than Disco.

    • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
      10·
      4 months ago

      Here’s the thing: Trek was never gritty before. Trek acknowledged the hardships of how we got to that utopian place, but only as a… distant abstract. It was in the past. As Trek went on and new series premiered, more history was revealed. It was gruesome. WWIII.The Eugenics Wars. Khan— who we then met, twice, and, who, then became a person of galactic importance.

      But it wasn’t until DS9 that we actually got a glimpse of post-contemporary Earth, but pre-WWIII. We saw San Fransisco in 2024. We saw something we had not yet, as a society, yet conceived in the mainstream: Sanctuary Districts.

      Today is March 17, 2024.

      I’m not gonna lie: in 1993, I was 14. Even then, I didn’t see how we could stop all this from happening.

      I’ll be 85 in 2064. I really hope I live to meet the Vulcans.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
        4·
        4 months ago

        The whole sanctuary districts thing was a response to what they believed was a homelessness crisis in the 1990s, but was nothing compared to today. The idea was that some president would eventually just corral the homeless into concentration camps.

    • CptEnder@lemmy.world
      9·
      4 months ago

      Yeah DS9, specifically the Dominion Wars, is leaps and bounds the darkest Trek. It took the question of “how far must I go before I myself become the monster?” and applied it to a Star Fleet officer. And how far he was willing to go to protect the Federation was truly terrifying.