Hi everyone,

Currently looking at either a Pixel 8 or a S23 as a replacement for my Zenfone 8 that is slowly becoming a hindrence due to (primarily) the battery. I would replace it, but as it costs a lot to do that here and I have needs for a non-compromised water protection DIY feels like a dangerous option.

So S23 vs Pixel 8, what would you guys recommend assuming I can get either for the same price?

I like the S23 hardware a bit better on paper, but as Pixel phones generally are very flashable my anti-Google sentiments might (ironically) push me there.

I would get a fairphone 5 for the hot-swappable battery etc if they weren’t so expensive for what you get, and as Im buying second hand reuse is better for the environment anyways.

  • @Pantherina@feddit.deEnglish
    5•5 months ago

    By far the Pixel. Install GrapheneOS on it, its great

    If you look into Android its damn scary. Especially Samsung is completely full of bloatware, they even preinstalled Facebook at least on an S9 which I looked at.

    https://github.com/trytomakeyouprivate/Android-Tipps/blob/main/debloat/Samsung.md

    All those hardware specs are not important. The question is: Is this a device that I use to do things with and otherwise is shuts up? Or is this constantly tracking me step by step, preinstalling bloatware and phoning data to at least 2 parties?

    Google Pixel stock Android is also full of Tracking. But Google has full custom Android support. Every security feature, the cameras, etc. all work.

    Also updates are really really fast. Other manifacturers are delayed by months, Google and GrapheneOS are extremely fast