I see this more and more lately: go to log in to some site, and they only show the username field. Enter username, click Submit, then a password field appears. Enter password, click Submit again, and then we’re logged in.

This makes using a password manager super annoying, because I have to trigger the autofill twice.

Is there some security-related reason more sites are doing this? Is it an anti-bot thing? I’m just really curious, because it seems so pointless on its face, but it seems to be spreading.

  • Max-P
    36•1 year ago

    SSO has already been mentioned, but expanding on that for those that aren’t familiar:

    When you have a big organization with lots of people that needs to access maybe dozens of sites to do their work, it quickly becomes a nightmare to manage. You’d have to invite the user on dozens of sites, you can’t easily control their access, it’s easy to forget about some accesses. You have to care about users using a good enough password, make sure to sign up with their work email, etc.

    Enter SSO. The company maintains a central directory for their users, where they can enforce password policies, enforce the use of 2FA authentication, and can out users into groups which grants them access and permissions to external services. So they can make say, a “developers” group and it gives you access to a testing AWS environment, read only access to logs in DataDog, access to some settings in Cloudflare, etc. They put your user into that group and you automatically get access to all that.

    Of course at that point, you don’t have a password for any of those sites. But you need a way to log in. So that’s why the login process is multistep: you first enter your email and submit that. From there, the site can determine if you belong to an SSO organization and redirect you to the SSO flow where you’ll authorize the log in and your company can also grant or deny the access to that site through your company email account. And then you’re in, no password required because supposedly you’re already logged in to your company email or logged in as a side effect of logging in to a company computer.

    If you have a regular account, then the site can prompt you for your password, and optionally your 2FA code. They could just put all 3 fields on the same page, but at that point you don’t know if the user needs a password, or if they need an MFA code as well.

    Plus, if you don’t have an account at all, it can then show you a registration page to enter the rest of your details, so you don’t even need a separate registration flow either.

    • @dan@upvote.au
      9•1 year ago

      To add to this… Sites that initially show both the username and password fields can get very confusing when using SSO. Dropbox used to be like this - It’d show both fields, but as soon as you entered an email address that uses SSO, it’d hide the password field. Sometimes the request would fail and so it’d still show the password field, but no passwords are valid for an SSO account, so it’d just look broken.