Edit: Folks, I keep telling you it’s VERY unlikely to be malware.

I’ll update you and apologize to each if my credit card gets wiped or something but I’m quite sure I’m safe, don’t worry.

Also sorry for blaming Microsoft for what is apparently my fault.


I accidentally clicked Microsoft Edge on my work computer with Windows 10 and couldn’t close it — it just keeps reopening. It takes File Shredder to stop it from opening again, at least until the computer restarts.

Notice the ads, most are extremely sketchy (my frequent reload in previous takes caused the ad server + my work VPN to rate limit me):

  • China warns: %user.currency% is dead! (Yeah, sure. Obvious propaganda. Generic pictures or faked images of a worthless banknote giveaway.)
  • 63-year-old figured out! (Does not say what but a pic of obviously young-looking feet.)
  • Make boatloads of money with AI! (aka auto-trade very uncompetitive options, no guarantees on withdrawals of any wins)
  • Save money using solar! (The company is legitimate but the deal on panels is probably not great)
  • Buy yourself a great new FPCEILPTBSP! (You can’t tell what it is and neither can we! (Apparently TV wall mount))
  • Losing hair?
  • Millionaire has genius method you can try (but give us money first, making his pic transparent so we can put him in front of %user.country.flag% was difficult)
  • Game! Yay! (Microtransactions galore!)
  • Get EVERYTHING in your car fixed (by a stock photo mechanic!)
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    The ads are definitely garbage, but the respawning window is something very wrong. Are you sure you dont have some kind of malware that is respawning the window?

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      It’s the cleanest Windows install I’ve ever done, less than a month old, and there is world-renowned, enterprise-level antivirus software running. Malware is pretty much out of the question.

      I did install EdgeRemover (edit: misremembered name) MSEdgeRedirectbut it apparently does not quite work.

      So yeah, it is caused by a kind of malware, which you pay Microsoft for. Unfortunately, I don’t have any other choice due to our required software.

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        Enterprise IT infrastructure admin here, I’ve imaged thousands of windows laptops over a decade and dealt with Edge since it was implemented, never seen anything like this. I’m sure you’re confident in your abilities but you messed something up real bad or have malware of some kind. No question about it, this is not typical for any version of Edge.

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          messed something up real bad

          You see me power-deleting Edge (including WebView) in the video, which is obviously a bad idea. This is a somewhat experimental setup I have so I don’t mind screwing things up a little bit.

          malware

          Unlikely. I follow very strict precautions. I cannot afford to have malware on top of my existing computer trouble.

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            so I don’t mind screwing things up a little bit.

            Which you clearly did, and are trying to blame Edge. There’s plenty of things to shit on Edge for but user error is not one of them.

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        world-renowned, enterprise-level antivirus software running

        lol. better just use defender next time.

        edit: or not use windows.

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          Yes, I use Linux on my personal machines, and I’m not advocating for Windows (in case you haven’t noticed). I can also assure you, the AV has better hit rate and user rating than Defender.

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            Edge doesn’t react this way m8. No chromium browser behaves this way doesn’t matter how sketchy a browser is it wouldnt shower you with pop ups and forcefully stay open. Uninstall all your cookies don’t sign into any new accounts erase windows from your hard drive scorched earth style and reinstall windows 10 then change all your account passwords espescally important stuff with your bank details on it

            Just think about it this way even experts can mess up time to time nothing wrong to admit you messed up. If anything it’s a good thing You can learn from this

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              I’ve had a similar thing happen before, Firefox kept opening several blank tabs every second. That time, the cause was a little more obvious: it kept calling itself to open a PDF because I had misconfigured it. I suspect a similar thing happened here – I did try to remove Edge, which may have broken something.

              Rather than reinstall and reconfigure everything, which takes 4 hours I’ll just do an ESET virus scan and reset some relevant config. I don’t do personal stuff or banking on that computer anyway so I don’t think I’m really in danger.

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        This is actual malware behavior though, not Microsoft’s usual “pls use Edge” shtick. If it’s not malware, something has still gone very wrong.

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          I don’t disagree with you. I could have still messed up in a subtle way but at least the consequences don’t seem to be too serious.

          Anyway, I don’t think it’s (third party) malware (that is, not by me or Microsoft) for another reason: viruses and trojans are not what they used to be. Unlike the 1990s, you won’t find much modern malware that does nothing but annoys the user (corporations, other users and freeware vendors do it plenty). People do it fir profit and they make adware, ransomware and cryptostealers, not some script kiddie’s batch file in the Startup folder that opens all executables in System32 simultaneously.

          When Firefox started opening several blank tabs every second, I immediately knew it wasn’t malware but a misconfiguration: turns out it was trying to open a PDF in itself. I think this is another little mistake I made.

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        Along with my personal ones I have a few windows 10/11 machines at work I manage and haven’t seen this happen, where the window just instantly re-opens like that.

        Have you tried clearing the edge appdata folders to fully reset all the settings? Maybe some setting got screwed up.

        Also maybe AV going haywire as a cause, lots of third party AV likes to do all kinds of weird stuff with your browsers. Windows defender is the go-to best option for windows these days, so if it turns out to be your third party AV you can pretty safely just get rid of it and switch back to defender.

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          I haven’t seen this behavior either but companies do partial “feature” rollouts all the time so I assume this is something like that.