It’s pretty much known that using an electric car, even if the electricity comes from a fossil fuel plant is far, far, more environmentally friendly than internal combustion engines. Sure, it’s not the perfect ideal, but it is a significant step in the right direction. Bringing up fossil fuel burned to make electricity as a deterrent to electrical car adoption is disingenuous at best.
Also it sets the stage to replace the electricity source with nuclear or renewable sources. It’s a lot easier to replace a single generating facility then millions of private cars.
ofc. i dont plan on convincing u either. people with a reasonable mind would judge my opinion based on scientific facts, not by sentiment. sure a Tesla is cooler when u can drive 40km for 1$, while a 30mpg gasoline car would cost three times as much to cover the same distance. But piggybacking on cheap utility electricity isnt a valid reason to act like u r preserving the environement. u bought an Ev because it were cheaper to run, albeit the higher costs to be paid upfront
sorry i was talking about Tesla. no offense but also a leaf with a 24kwh isnt enough for battery, and charging at 0.5$/kwh and beyond isnt viable really. maybe u should have studied the running costs in ur location, including the electrical utility prices etc…(40km for 1$ thats with 0.13$/kwh in the us, 90km with 21kwh in a Tesla(222wh/km), so prices arent the same everywhere)
My commute has only ever been about 40 miles round trip. It’s been the best car purchase I’ve ever made, in decades of buying vehicles. Sure, I’m not taking any road trips in it, but there are easy ways around that. I actually budgeted an extra $200 on my electric bill, about what I spent on gas on my other vehicle, and it just wasn’t even close to that. Well, getting closer these days, but the cost of electricity has gone up a bit. Still, financially, a great deal.
i thought running a leaf was costing u money. happy for u really if it helped u commute. a Tesla can live with chargers stationed each 400km, but a leaf wont make it. it requires a charging station each 100km. cool for commutes, but how about trips ? (cool, u already are aware of it) so hopefully more charging stations become built to support the leaf. for places where gasoline costs about 4$/galon and beyond, evs becomes more suitable i agree. where i live we have 3$/gal for gasoline, 2.4$/gal for diesel. probably prices are double this in the us or europe
It’s pretty much known that using an electric car, even if the electricity comes from a fossil fuel plant is far, far, more environmentally friendly than internal combustion engines. Sure, it’s not the perfect ideal, but it is a significant step in the right direction. Bringing up fossil fuel burned to make electricity as a deterrent to electrical car adoption is disingenuous at best.
Also it sets the stage to replace the electricity source with nuclear or renewable sources. It’s a lot easier to replace a single generating facility then millions of private cars.
There’s also home solar panels to consider. I imagine there’s a significant overlap between people who have EVs and people who have solar panels.
i wouldnt argue. A solar plant would make all the sense. Also nuclear is finite, might as well skip it (fission, not fusion)
ofc. i dont plan on convincing u either. people with a reasonable mind would judge my opinion based on scientific facts, not by sentiment. sure a Tesla is cooler when u can drive 40km for 1$, while a 30mpg gasoline car would cost three times as much to cover the same distance. But piggybacking on cheap utility electricity isnt a valid reason to act like u r preserving the environement. u bought an Ev because it were cheaper to run, albeit the higher costs to be paid upfront
Sorry bud. I bought a used Leaf for about $11k a good 5-6 years ago. I’m poor as shit.
sorry i was talking about Tesla. no offense but also a leaf with a 24kwh isnt enough for battery, and charging at 0.5$/kwh and beyond isnt viable really. maybe u should have studied the running costs in ur location, including the electrical utility prices etc…(40km for 1$ thats with 0.13$/kwh in the us, 90km with 21kwh in a Tesla(222wh/km), so prices arent the same everywhere)
My commute has only ever been about 40 miles round trip. It’s been the best car purchase I’ve ever made, in decades of buying vehicles. Sure, I’m not taking any road trips in it, but there are easy ways around that. I actually budgeted an extra $200 on my electric bill, about what I spent on gas on my other vehicle, and it just wasn’t even close to that. Well, getting closer these days, but the cost of electricity has gone up a bit. Still, financially, a great deal.
i thought running a leaf was costing u money. happy for u really if it helped u commute. a Tesla can live with chargers stationed each 400km, but a leaf wont make it. it requires a charging station each 100km. cool for commutes, but how about trips ? (cool, u already are aware of it) so hopefully more charging stations become built to support the leaf. for places where gasoline costs about 4$/galon and beyond, evs becomes more suitable i agree. where i live we have 3$/gal for gasoline, 2.4$/gal for diesel. probably prices are double this in the us or europe
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Very unlikely a tesla would make it with charging stations every 400km - https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/08/angry-tesla-customers-sue-firm-over-grossly-exaggerated-ev-range/
i quote u a Tesla owner: https://lemmy.world/comment/3467231
Who cares why they bought it. We don’t run on values. You are a nonsense talker.
Facts have vanquished you. Now begone troll
Huh?