• TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    You referenced the Nazi term, “degenerate.” Most of the time the people behind these attacks are very much aligned with Nazi ideology.

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          10 months ago

          I don’t think anyone ever brought up drag queens being behind it, OP’s just using a word that has evolved in meaning. Much like how words like “stupid”, “moron”, etc went from official terms to refer to the mentally disabled, to slurs, to regular insults.

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            Nazis targeted people for sexual degeneracy before they went after the Jews. I was simply pointing out that most CP posting hackers are in fact, Nazis themselves and the title is using Nazi terminology to place blame on degenerates.

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              10 months ago

              I don’t think paedophilla really has a place on the political spectrum. Stop labelling everything you’re against as Nazi. It’s not giving you the clarity to think about what you’re fighting against.

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                10 months ago

                I like how you twisted my words to imply that I support pedophilia in your disingenuous response. It really shows that you’re a committed sack of shit, and by extension it shows your allegiance.

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                  10 months ago

                  I realise this is nearly a week old, but I don’t come back very often.

                  I assumed you were against paedophilla. I assumed you were against Nazis. I did not twist your words to say any different. What I said was that the two are not the same, even if you hate both.

                  Conflating the two just muddies the waters. Fighting nazis won’t solve paedophilla, and fighting paedophilla won’t solve Nazism.

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                  10 months ago

                  Sounds like you’re the committed sack of shit, you disingenuous “degenerate”. People like you are what’s wrong with the world and why I enlisted. Yet another reason I won’t hesitate when the order is given to set 1SQ for nuclear launch. Hooyah America.

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              Nazis don’t have access to the Lemmy backend the way the devs do, and the devs are tankies. Tankies hate Nazis. And this attack would have required knowledge of Lemmy backend only a dev would have, so it can’t have been the Nazis.

              It very well might have been tankies, though.

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      10 months ago

      Guys, I think this is a troll account. Probably from the same bad actors that caused the original issue OP is complaining about.

      Illegal images didn’t work, so they took the “talk about Nazis” approach.

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      10 months ago

      I dont understand why this post is downvoted so much. It is calling the people who undermine Lemmy with CP Nazis (which they probably are) and points out some historical context of a specific term. I thought Lemmy would be up for that.

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        10 months ago

        There’s a strong right wing element in the Lemmy comment section, especially in places where abusive behavior can be disguised as comedy or virtue signaling. I don’t care about the votes. If they hate me, I’m still in their heads.

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          10 months ago

          No, there’s a lot of people who don’t want their language destroyed by people saying everything is a dog whistle.

          Degenerate isn’t a Nazi term. It’s an insult, and insults are useful.

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            If you don’t want the word degeneracy associated with scientific racism you’re going to need a time machine to the 1700s, because the idea of social degeneracy started then. This was the first stepping stone to eugenics as practiced by the United States against minorities, which in turn was the foundation for Nazi race “science.” There is a straight line through those points that are all united by the idea of degeneracy.

            If you want words to mean things then you can’t ignore their history.

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      10 months ago

      I agree. This word is almost exclusively used by Nazis now. Let’s not use that word to refer to people, no matter how bad the things they do.

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        It’s common terminology deeply rooted in internet culture. People call themselves degenerates due to being unable to pursue social interactions in real life

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          This whole thread is pretty hilarious to me. When ever I hear the word “degenerate” I am generally expecting it to be during the intro to a Twisted Sister video.

          edit: Also, we’re talking about labeling CSAM spreaders as degenerates. Pick all of the bad words. I don’t fucking care which ones, and I literally will not give a single, tiny little pea-sized shit about applying to those that traffic in CSAM.