I am looking to buy a 3D printer for my son (and for myself too). We want to print, not tinker, so it should be something that gives great results right from the start.

Can you guide me to a sensible choice?

My first choice would have to be the Prusa MK3S Plus but it is outside the price range I am shopping for, except if I buy used – would that be bad to do?

Realistic choices:

  • €380 used Prusa MK3S+, with 10 days printing time
  • €400 new Prusa Mini+
  • €250 new Ender 3 V2 Neo

Criteria:

  • High quality, no hassle. I want to print, not tinker.
  • Preferably (semi)assembled.
  • Auto bed leveling.
  • Auto error detection (filament, power, etc.?).
  • Budget up to 600 EUR/USD including extras, excluding filament.
  • Speed is not important.
  • Size is not important.
  • Must not be cloud-based.

Questions:

  • Surface?! Smooth, os satin, or textured? (Why) Should I have more than one kind?
  • (Why) Do I need an enclosure?
  • Rikudou_Sage
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    211 months ago

    Saying all surfaces are equal is wrong. Using PEI sheet with PETG or TPU (and no glue) is a nice way to destroy it.

    • @RobotToaster
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      111 months ago

      Same with glass, I ruined a few with PETG.

        • @rambos@lemm.ee
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          211 months ago

          Clean glass is best for pla imo. Also its flat. You need flat bed to avoid auto bed leveling and tooling plates are expensive. I know most peeps here disagree with me hehe

          • Square Singer
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            111 months ago

            My stock Ender 5 print plate is super flat and I don’t need any auto bed leveling.

            The print plate of my Tronxy X8, which I had before, was also super flat.

            With spring steel PC, I need no surface treatment before printing PLA, PETG or TPU. It sticks perfectly every time and it comes off easily after cooling down.

            No glue strick, hairspray, tape or other stuff that belongs in the 2010s needed.

        • @RobotToaster
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          111 months ago

          It’s very flat, it works well with PLA, and it’s what my ultimaker 2 came with.

          • Square Singer
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            211 months ago

            For a 10 year old machine that makes sense. But honestly, get your self a buildtak clone surface and stick it onto your glass board.

            You won’t be going back to the glass, I promise you.

            Costs maybe €10, takes 2 minutes to install and you won’t ever have to mess with glue stick, hairspray or any other surface treatment.

    • @frostwhitewolf@lemmy.world
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      111 months ago

      I read about this so many times but I’ve printed with PETG a lot on both glass and PEI and never come close to experiencing this.

      • Rikudou_Sage
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        111 months ago

        Lucky you, I was too lazy to read and ruined a brand new sheet the first time I was printing PETG.