cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21382196

By JULIA FRANKEL
Updated 6:38 AM EDT, October 14, 2024

[unbelievable - of course Biden and Harris will go along with no complaint]

  • Michael H. Jenkins
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    1 month ago

    I get what you’re saying but I’ll point out he has our near-unquestioning support now.

    • Carrolade@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Not unquestioning, no. Qualified support, where he doesn’t do things like this or do a big ground invasion of Rafah.

      • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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        1 month ago

        Until he does those things at which point we draw new red lines. The US could support a small Balkan economy with all the red line drawing we’re doing.

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        1 month ago

        He’s already invaded Lebanon. I suspect Rafah’s only been spared so they can focus on that.

        • Carrolade@lemmy.world
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          1 month ago

          The planned offensive into Rafah was halted after Biden temporarily cut off the arms shipments over it. They opted for some strikes instead.

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            1 month ago

            I’d bet money I don’t have that “halted” means “delayed until after the US election”. But that’s the cynic in me . . .

            • Carrolade@lemmy.world
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              1 month ago

              It’s unfortunately worse than that. We already resumed after the offensive was abandoned, it’s our bombs falling on Lebanon now. Plenty to be cynical about, no question.

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                I suspect that post election we’ll see a renewed push into Gaza and the West Bank. This feels a lot like Reagan and the Iran Hostage Crisis.

                • SeaJ@lemm.ee
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                  1 month ago

                  If Trump wins, yes. He met privately with Netanyahu and is good friends with him.

                • Carrolade@lemmy.world
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                  1 month ago

                  Yeah. I think it depends on who wins. Biden has given qualified support with a little bit of pushback. Trump’s support would likely be fully unqualified, since he needs to appeal to his Evangelicals and far right folks who support Israeli expansion. I don’t see much incentive to change from his course of full throated support for West Bank annexation and moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, de facto acknowledging it as the Israeli capital.

                  • Michael H. Jenkins
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                    I think you’ve hit it on the head, in that it will be a question of how openly the next administration enables the horrors perpetuated by the Israeli government. What a time to be alive!

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        1 month ago

        It’s only “not unquestioning support” in the literal sense, i.e. we’re willing, rhetorically, to make vague gesters about red lines, but unwilling to put any of that rhetoric into action.