Right you didn’t have an issue with that statement yesterday, and now you’re making some wild assumptions and accusations about my beliefs in an attempt to further fish for an argument.

Anyway I also addressed many of you points yesterday. Here I can quote it again since you forgot.

Attempts to remove a dictator by force are usually not possible without a lengthy occupation. There’s no new government or leaders ready to form a new government that is better for the Iranian people. An occupation is also unlikely to have good results. This isn’t reforming Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan, this is something else entirely. I would expect the people of Iran to not respond well to aggressors occupying their country. This is at best Afghanistan 2, but likely worse

I think this sums up my fears well. I don’t think the United States should be sending people to die, or bombing schools, to end this regime. Odds are based on the US track record it will be ineffective or worse for the Iranian people. The US has a record of replacing a dictator with even worse US friendly dictators. Not to mention if the regime doesn’t fall this will be a bloody campaign, the bombs alone can easily kill more than 30,000 Iranians.

Sorry I don’t want my country to play world police anymore. We’re bad at it, it’s expensive, and too many people die every time

I like megathreads because they improve conversation on a topic

If you’d refer to my first comment in this chain you’d see this comment wasn’t necessary

I’m glad he’s dead, but the fear is that this creates an even worse situation.

Just fishing for an argument rest of the conversation be damned

I’m not “making up scenarios,”

I’m trying to stay a few steps ahead of these morons

It’s the same picture

I have a draft age son

I am still draft age, scares the shit out of me this war will get worse and the draft is coming. I’m not going either. I don’t even think suspecting a draft is unlikely. It’s just the added bits and hyperbole of your arguement I didn’t like.

My advice to avoid it short term is if your son is college age send him abroad for college. I am doing a graduate degree myself waiting to see if I’ll be able to claim asylum. Added benefit it’s so much cheaper abroad tuition wise. I did the math the total program costt (rent, tuition, insurance, etc) will cost me less than 1 semesters tuition in the US

The draft part will be announced in January 2027.

Source or more speculation?

I’m not opposed to being predictive of the administration, but I’m not going to get online and pretend to know with certainty when they will do something.

Yeah it’s possible, but I don’t see the point in making up scenarios when they are doing more than enough now. There’s a couple thousand laws they could figure out a way to weaponize, doesn’t mean they will and doesn’t suddenly make those laws “MAGA law”.

Equating all federal law to “MAGA law” is incredibly reactionary.

Also you’ve slightly changed your position on what you mean by “MAGA Law” each time you’ve replied. To me it reeks of the over-reactionary rhetoric the conservatives use. I don’t need boogeymen and hyperbole when we have more than enough real problems to deal with. Real problems stemming from Trump and MAGA of course

They may, but this isn’t backed by anything and is an entirely made up scenario.

Instead of inventing scenarios or trying to equate all federal law to “MAGA law” we could focus on the very real crimes the administration is committing and the ones they’ve publicly announced they are planning.

Adding MAGA law here is just really weird.

Registering for the draft was passed into law in 1917 by Woodrow Wilson. 29 years before Trump was born.

Calling that “MAGA” law makes no sense practically or historically

So wait let me get this straight. The US threatened Iran’s right to exist, Iran begins to develop nuclear weapons, and now they’re the bad guy for threatening the US’s right to exist. The very country that threatened them first

Tbh, any nation that doesn’t have nuclear weapons should be rushing to make them. after what we saw in Ukraine and well Iran this week.

Ultimately your country can be taken over whenever by whoever unless you have nuclear weapons. That’s the way our world is now. Might = Right.

I hate it but it’s where we are now

I don’t remember a single line in the Constitution stating the military has the power to remove a sitting president.

At least the scenario I described was constitutional.

That’s the neat part about an oath to the Constitution, you can’t break it to save it. That would be outside of that very oath.

I’m glad he’s dead, but the fear is that this creates an even worse situation.

Attempts to remove a dictator by force are usually not possible without a lengthy occupation. There’s no new government or leaders ready to form a new government that is better for the Iranian people. An occupation is also unlikely to have good results. This isn’t reforming Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan, this is something else entirely. I would expect the people of Iran to not respond well to aggressors occupying their country. This is at best Afghanistan 2, but likely worse

Well if we want to really go into constitutional interp, the military has no power to remove a sitting president.

But if elections do not occur a person doesn’t continue to be the president, additionally a 3rd term is banned by the constitution.

If Trump were to “cancel” elections, a power he doesn’t even have, the law is clear. He would still lose the presidency. It would then pass to the speaker of the house per the constitutional line of succession.

At that point the military would have a choice to make.

Of course these are big ifs, laws only matter if they are followed. And this scenario requires the law to be broken to even occur. Shits bad

Three sister’s doesn’t fix the pollination issues, but of course as we see they do grow well together

I’d start with Truman. His involvement with the Korean war set the US president of constant proxy wars

I’d say the majority of the population can do that, mostly it’s a class filter. Need money to go to school or massive debt.

The overly bubbly optimistic spin?

If I try small plot corn again I will give it more vigorous handjobs

I vote Quaker

Sounds like a lizard

I actually did this, it went okay. I got some corn, but unfortunately for the best germination you need a pretty large field due to corn being wind pollinated.

I used maybe a 7×7 ft plot, so definently go bigger than that.