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It’s a funny old world where not liking Nazis and thinking things might be a bit better if we all worked together to fix our problems could now get you flagged as being a terrorist.
From the way things are going with Prevent, it may soon consider anyone forming somewhat strong opinions on anything to be an extremist.
“Marmite, you
either love or you hate itare required by the state to be neutral about it.”Marmite would be an absolute hero. If they started an advertising campaign around that.
And opposing the mass murder of unborn children
no one is killing unborn kids. small clumps of cells arent people
TIL I’m a terrorist because I hate fascists.
Absolutely shocked that a monarchy considers socialism a graver threat than fascism!
oh no, its terror billy!
Genuine question: have there been any terrorist attacks planned or executed by people in the UK in the name of any of those ideas? I know there have genuinely been communist terrorist acts in other places, but I can’t think of any that happened here.
If you want to be technical about it, the attacks on the police by anti-fascist demonstrators at the Battle of Cable Street could be considered terrorism.
The term is so vague as to be completely useless IMO.
And even if we count Cable Street, it was about a hundred years ago!
It seems like it’s super useful.
When you want to demonise, discredit or intimidate.
It’s kind of weird as an American to see anti-abortion on that list. All of the pro-fascists over here are staunchly anti-abortion.
First they came for the windrush generation and I did nothing because I was not of the windrush generation.
Then they came for the Polish and I did nothing for I was not Polish.
Then they came for the trans women and I did nothing because I was not a trans woman.
Yada yada yada…
British politics having a normal one again.
Fascist gov declares being against them as terrorism, basically
This is the best summary I could come up with:
A document from Prevent, the official scheme to stop radicalisation, includes believing in socialism, communism, anti-fascism and anti-abortion in a list of potential signs of ideologies leading to terrorism.
A former head of counter-terrorism said it risked damaging Prevent, and human rights groups said the government was playing political games under the guise of stopping terrorism.
In a section on single-issue ideologies, the document reads: “Narratives are likely to come from those who seek to change a specific policy or practice, as opposed to replacing the whole economic, political or social system.
A Home Office spokesperson said: “Prevent deals with all forms of radicalisation and it is important that this is effectively communicated within our training products so that frontline professionals are equipped to take the appropriate action.
“Our concern is only heightened by government rhetoric during the past few days that appears to be targeting British Muslims and protesters for Palestinian rights.
Ilyas Nagdee, from Amnesty International, said: “This is yet another crackdown from the UK government to stifle freedom of expression – including political speech and activism – using the blunt instrument that is Prevent.
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That’s fucked.
The only one that belongs there is the anti-abortion one.
In North America, the majority of cases of acts of terrorism were done by radicalized conservative christian right-wingers who attacked family planning and abortion clinics, gay bars or other LGBTQ+ establishments, attacked anti-fascism protesters, attacked non-caucasians, and attacked non-christian religious establishments.
There has been no socialist/communist or any left-wing terrorist acts that I can remember.
Conservatives are the true terrorists and they feel threatened by anyone who don’t think like them.
I can think of a single example in my living memory within the US, the loner who attacked the congressional softball game was left of the average democrat. How much farther left, I don’t recall.
Part of that surely has to do with the way the gun debate in this country has been framed, and the positions the left has taken up on the same. That’s a separate conversation, of course, but I hypothesize that the dearth of guns on the left also leads to a dearth of acts that kill people. Well, that, and the lack of baseless bs conspiracy theories (mostly).
Edit: Source
No evidence. But I’ll be happy to risk my left tenticle to declare.
The only reason anti abortion made tge list. It was thevonly one they could excuse on there. That stopped folks screaming it was a right wing attack on the left.
Even the anti abortion one is bullshit. Yes they’re shitbags who want an awful thing, but standing outside clinics shouting at people and handing out fliers is not something that should have you labelled as a potential terrorist.
You haven’t heard about people setting these clinics on fire? Physically threatening patients and doctors and death threats?
In the UK? No I havent, in America sure but I havent heard of arson attacks on clinics happening over here.
Supporting the genocidal actions of Israel is not on the list.
One of these is not like the others…
As a good and well behaved citizen:
Makes sense. Any one that feels very strongly about something like those things is more likely to commit terrorism.
Pretty much any group that’s identity is pro- or anti- is slightly more dangerous than neutrality.
And considering how many (non committal) threats I see on Lemmy about killing people it’s probably something police should watch out for.
I initially thought “damn, Lemmy missed the sarcasm big time on that one”. Then I read “any group that’s identity”. And then the rest of the brain damage. Bruuh 🤨
Wouldn’t expect anything less from Lemmy.
