• LennethAegis
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    I fall under Tech Conservative mostly, but I would like to edit the last 2 points to this for myself:

    “Believe every publicly traded company is inherently evil”
    “Doesn’t morally support big tech, but uses some anyway”

  • Yote.zip
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    9011 months ago

    Grats on Arch Linux install, S-tier distro for what it attempts to accomplish.

    It feels like there needs to be a category in between conservative and paranoid. I’m probably 90% of the way over to tech paranoid but using Tor Browser and Tails is a little much.

    • @KindredAffiliate@lemmy.world
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      4011 months ago

      Grats on Arch Linux install, S-tier distro for what it attempts to accomplish.

      For some reason, the best word to describe it in my mind is “fun”. Just fun to learn and play with, fun to install, fun to configure and customize, and fun to daily drive. Definitely not fun when a random package update breaks your system (looking at you grub), but that hardly ever happens anymore provided you don’t enable the testing repo.

      Also pacman is the fastest package manager I’ve ever used.

      • Yote.zip
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        Apt is very quick as well (with the nala frontend), no complaints there. I’ve been running Arch for the past 5 years and recently switched to Debian Stable. The “grub event” was certainly notable, but otherwise I don’t think Arch is really that unstable or gimmicky. Arch itself is a very solid and dependable platform - the reason I decided to move is because I really don’t need the bleeding edge packages from other projects anymore. With Flatpaks and all the rest of the /home-based package managers that are around now, I can keep a stable base system and install a couple bleeding edge packages that I want, instead of being forced to run my entire system as bleeding edge (do my printer drivers really need to make me bleed?).

        Overall, I’d say the Arch experience is as high quality as the Debian experience, they just target different usecases. Neither of them is better, it’s just up to the user how bloody they want their system to be.

        • Programmer Belch
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          211 months ago

          Is it really not that stable? I’m trying to switch from ext4 because of the built-in compression

          • @SgtThunderC_nt@lemmy.zip
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            211 months ago

            I just lost a raid 0 array for what seems like no reason, all I even had to do was reformat and both drives are working again. It’s fortunate I only use them for my steam library.

            That being said I have an Ubuntu machine that’s been running 4 drives in RAID 5 for like 5 years so… Your mileage may vary?

            • Programmer Belch
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              I will stick to static partitions, I am aware btrfs and RAID don’t mix well

      • @SpicyTofuSoup@lemmy.sdf.org
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        211 months ago

        Somehow mkinitcpio broke my initramfs the other day when I installed the latest microcode updates. Took me like an hour to debug the issue and boot from the fallback 😑. That’s the first time I’ve had an issue like that though. I’ve been using arch for a few years now.

    • Sean
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      There is another version with two more tiers

      • substill
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        1811 months ago

        Please tell me there aren’t two more tiers to the right of paranoid. The last tier would just be “homemade pencils only.”

        • @CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml
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          There’s one either side!

          Edit: also, I’m at “Newborn Paranoid” and definitely feeling the pull towards tech paranoid. Writing this on Librewolf in Arch (btw) lol.

          • substill
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            611 months ago

            The only things I even recognize from those two are fdroid and lynx.

            • NebLem
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              611 months ago

              Most of the others were Emacs related. I’m sure someone on here is even using the new emacs client lem to read this comment.

    • oce 🐆
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      Also the middle should be called Tech Centrist or Tech Social Democrat, daring to use the projects from philosophical minorities is not conservative at all.

      • Corgana
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        Conservatives are always trying to make themselves seem “cool and different” like the middle guy in the meme. Being anticonsumerist, pro-privacy and pro individual liberty is far from actual conservative policy goals but they obviously have to pretend otherwise.

      • gun/linux
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        Conservative means “not extreme”

        E.g. conservative estimates

        • @a_statistician@lemmy.ml
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          Words can have multiple meanings - it might be best to find one that doesn’t have the same baggage that conservative has, such as “risk-averse”

        • oce 🐆
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          Not extreme is rather moderate. Conservative estimate means there’s a tendency to not change what was estimated in the past. Moderate would mean that a small change would be accepted.

    • Dolphinfucker420
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      I use arch as my main disto with Firefox but use tails and tor for “purchases”

  • @_danny@lemmy.ml
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    5711 months ago

    What does MKBHD have to do with this? He’s just a tech reviewer who kinda fits between tech normie and tech conservative

    • illectrility
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      He’s the kind of guy that looks at a Fairphone and says “if you compare this to a Pixel, the Pixel is faster”, talks about how important repairability and sustainability is, vows to mention it in future phone reviews and then proceeds to never mention it ever again but instead keeps on saying how great the new iPhone is.

      I’m not kidding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkmzDwgvqQM

      • @Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world
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        111 months ago

        Hey I watched this video when it came out a year ago, and honestly don’t remember a single thing about it, other than I had already “liked” the video. Damn my brain needs an oil change…

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      And he mostly talks about phones anyway… hardly relevant to the avg pc enthusiast as he only covers macbooks and not their competition, which is silly.

  • @bloodfart@lemmy.ml
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    5511 months ago

    🏳️‍⚧️ Congratulations on coming out and I wish you a successful transition. 🏳️‍⚧️

  • @dsemy@lemm.ee
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    5311 months ago

    For fellow paranoids:

    Mullvad browser is a fairly new Firefox fork which aims to reduce fingerprinting potential while also having sane (paranoid) defaults. Developed with the Tor project. Basically the Tor browser but without connecting to the Tor network. Passes coveryourtracks.eff.org.

    SimpleX Chat is a fairly new privacy oriented IM platform which seems to address many issues current ones have. Development is very active. E2E, video and voice calls, decentralized, doesn’t have user ID of any kind.

      • CUFTA22
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        411 months ago

        It’s librewolf if they had a VPN to shill to you

      • @toastal@lemmy.ml
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        Tor/Mullvad are better for anonymity use cases, but when you go tweaking it (settings, add-ons) you are no longer blending in with the pack. LibreWolf suits a more privacy-oriented use case I think since it’s not aiming to mimic Tor, but just have privacy settings mostly maxed out & you opt into everything you are comfortable with, such as cookies—whereas base Fx you have to opt into more privacy.

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          411 months ago

          I mostly use librewolf as a substitute for private browsing. Firefox is my go to for places where I log in

      • @dsemy@lemm.ee
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        Honestly, I can’t remember specifics but I read some bad stuff about Librewolf a few months ago (nothing nefarious, just seems the developers didn’t necessarily really know what they were doing and made some weird design choices).

        I trust the Tor project somewhat, so I tend to trust Mullvad browser more.

        Edit: here’s some good information: https://github.com/mullvad/mullvad-browser/issues/1

      • @dsemy@lemm.ee
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        211 months ago

        Honestly, I can’t remember specifics but I read some bad stuff about Librewolf a few months ago (nothing nefarious, just seems the developers didn’t necessarily really know what they were doing and made some weird design choices).

        I trust the Tor project somewhat, so I tend to trust Mullvad browser more.

  • Semi-Hemi-Demigod
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    What if my favorite OS is Mac, my favorite browser is Firefox, and my favorite app is self hosted?

    • @soviettaters@lemmy.world
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      Not really. People who use the apps are trying to preserve (conserve) the time when privacy wasn’t an afterthought. It’s not working, but they’re sure trying.

    • @JusticeForPorygon@dormi.zone
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      111 months ago

      It’s using the word conservative in its literal definition, rather than the definition it’s been given by some that incorrectly use it to describe their beliefs.

      The word they’re looking for is “Facist”

  • @borlax@lemmy.borlax.com
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    3111 months ago

    The fact that the favorite OS of the tech conservative is an Arch based distro and and a Debian based distro instead of pure Arch or Debian makes this meme inaccurate.

    • @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Tails is also total ass as a daily driver. I know, I did it for a long time before the lack of persistence was such a pain I had to give in. Like, you can save in your data partition, but having to install/configure everything on each boot sucks, and if you made the system partition writable it would defeat the point of Tails.

      • @borlax@lemmy.borlax.com
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        I don’t think Tails, backtrack, kali, and similar distros were ever intended to be daily drivers. I’ve only used them as live ISOs to leverage their very specific toolkits.

  • @tsuica@lemmy.ml
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    “I can’t live with modern tech anymore”

    uses modern tech

    A truly paranoid individual unplugs every piece of technology and uses nothing with screens, buttons or electricity going through it.

  • Eochaid
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    I fit somewhere between normie and conservative. Philosophically, I agree with the tech conservative, but I also have shit to do and when FOSS gets in my way, it’s hard to justify it.

    I use Firefox because it was an easy switch.

    I used Signal until they killed sms support. Sorry, most of the people I know use a default messages app. And the day I force everyone I know to use Signal is the day they stop talking to me.

    I dabble in Linux, but I main Windows because I’m not a programmer or IT admin. I know how to use it, for better or worse, and I don’t have to memorize terminal commands to perform even basic tasks. Sure, gaming is getting better on linux, but it’s still a compromised experience and I still, to this day, have to look up tutorials and terminal command every time I try to do anything on my Linux box.

    But…wherever possible, I use FOSS software.

    I like to call it the tech pragmatist. I agree with the conservative, but I’m not that smart and I got shit to do.

    • @nomadjoanne@lemmy.world
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      A lot of us are in this boat. I do daily drive Linux but I am very fortunate in that I’m my own boss so I can use whichever computer I want.

      And yeah, there is no way to force people to use Signal. It is what it is. Fortunately here in Europe WhatsApp is the default messaging app. It is at least better than SMS for UA non-iPhone people.

  • The Cuuuuube
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    2111 months ago

    I’m in the last column with the exception of thinking RMS is a misogynistic transphobe asshole

    • mitch
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      611 months ago

      Fuck RMS. A hideous, slimy grandpa attached to a computer.

      • @dsemy@lemm.ee
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        611 months ago

        And the reason free software exists.

        Also one of the only people I’ve seen who routinely attempts to ensure people don’t insult each other (like you have) on the mailing lists he frequents, so he gets another point in my book.

        • mitch
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          Mmm, people only get so many bites at the “vociferously defending pedorasty’” apple before you’re written off in my eyes. He is far beyond that point, even after decades of having to listen to people make appeals to authority.

          • @dsemy@lemm.ee
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            211 months ago

            Did you actually read the what he wrote, or did you read what others wrote about him?

            Consider the fact that he promotes an ideology that is extremely dangerous to various powerful people; it would be naive to assume none have tried to weaken his message by presenting him in various ways.

            As to his latest controversy, if you actually read what he wrote, and understand that he chooses his words very carefully, you will see that he did not say anything controversial at all.

  • @Vlixz@lemmy.world
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    2011 months ago

    Wish I could just ditch Windows and Whatsapp for something else… I’ve tried Linux but every time I quickly wanted to do something it first took me 30/40 minutes to get it working :⁠’⁠( was driving me insane after the cool factor of daily driving Linux went away

    • @muix
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      How long ago was that and what did you want to get working? In my experience anything I do has been smoother on modern Linux than on Windows.

      • @Vlixz@lemmy.world
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        Probably 1,5 months ago. I used Fedora 38 - to be fair I was really impressed with how far gaming has gotten. Basically anything I trew at it just worked (big F for Rust). However my audio kept breaking when switching application’s which I could only fix by restarting. Besides that I was really annoyed by Fedora somehow not picking up my second display from time to time. No idea what happened but every like 20 restarts my second display wouldn’t work, or games suddenly started to display on my second display instead of my main. These where probably the biggest things for me, besides some applications I use for debugging not being supported on Linux. Anyhow I’ll probably try Linux again in a couple of months, maybe another distro, since I do really enjoy programming on Linux.

        • Rikudou_Sage
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          I recommend Linux Mint, it’s very user friendly. And it’s based on Ubuntu, meaning almost every Ubuntu guide works for it as well.

          • @Vlixz@lemmy.world
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            111 months ago

            I’ll look into it!! Haven’t got much todo anyway right now since my summer break just started.

        • Mkengine
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          311 months ago

          What do you think about Zorin? It’s Ubuntu in a Windows Skin if I remember correctly, so target audience are Windows and Mac OS users who want to switch.

          • Corgana
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            Been daily driving Zorin a few months now. Once I got past three very large hardware-related hurdles (that unfortunlatey would be impossible for normal users), it has been much better than Windows. I do recommend it if you’re like the middle guy in the meme (but not conservative lol)

        • panCat
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          Well my mother , who is in her 50s was studying for a course two years back , so i booted my old PC with linux mint and gave it to her , for libre office , some browser stuff and pdf etc, the thing it is just worked , and as a programmer I love how i get things done easily via terminal !

          • @arghya_333@lemmy.ml
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            75% of users use only the browser, and maybe the downloads folder of their file explorer. OS basically doesn’t matter as long as they have that.

    • @topRamen@lemmy.ml
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      A lot of linux platforms are pretty plug and play now unless you’re trying to get a programming running that wasn’t built for Linux. That’s why I think both Linux and proprietary operating systems have their place. Its just too bad not everyone makes their stuff for linux. It’s definitely getting better though.

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    I’m a software engineer that uses windows and firefox, has no social media accounts (minus message boards), and owns a google pixel. Be confused. You can’t stop me.

    • @tinykingdoms@lemm.ee
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      This is the way. Because all the rest of that other stuff is fine and dandy… but I gotta work, and jobs often requires a Windows environment. Video games are plug n’ play w/ windows. I know about proton, but for now… it still isn’t perfect. Firefox because it works just as well as Chrome without the feeling of Google overseeing everything. Most social media has turned to constant ads and trash, and Pixel because Apple locks down their phone with little to no customization.

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        If proton can handle starfield at launch, its jover for windows.

    • @dan@upvote.au
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      211 months ago

      has no social media accounts

      I regret to inform you that you are posting this comment on a social media site/app.

      • lukini
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        (minus message boards)

        I regret to inform you that you stopped reading.