• arthurpizza@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    We need to stop with the proprietary bike parts. A bike that isn’t able to be repaired destroys a lot of the benefits of bike ownership.

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      8 months ago

      Agreed. That’s one of the big benefits of cheap bikes currently - cheap, available parts that work in a wide range of bikes. There’s always been proprietary shit though, this particular tech isn’t new in that regard.

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      8 months ago

      Oh god. Another “we need to stop…” post.

      This is how innovation happens - one company creates a thing, and years later another company creates a better thing. You want to stop innovation? Stick with your logic and only have the first thing. But then you’d likely have 1 gear, poorer braking, no electrics, etc, etc.

      At some point innovation overwhelms tradition and the new thing is the standard part, like a Shimano gearset which, at one point, was a custom part.

      I’ve been burned by buying the wrong pivot (CP/M, Colecovision, Dreamcast, Betamax, Laserdisc) over the years, but now innovation kept going and so my M2 Mac, AppleTV and Synology library all work smoothly together. If you’re going to cry every time you see something new and hate it, you’re going to have a hard time in the future.

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          8 months ago

          First off, it would be “inferring”, not implying. I imply, you infer.

          Next, no - I’m not saying that. That’s moving the goalposts. I’m saying your original statement of no new technology that not open source is a fallacy too. Proprietary tech often leads the way in innovation, and then that becomes the target of open tech as the tech is duplicated, refined, and then commodified.

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            8 months ago

            How is that moving a goal post? Proprietary parts often mean the only the original manufacturer can upgrade or repair. Open standards allow anyone to build additional parts that are compatible.

            This is not a hypothetical situation. There are thousands of high quality e-bikes with proprietary batteries, and sometimes the manufacturer does not offer replacement batteries.

            When the battery is dead, the consumer has very few choices. With open standard hardware they can simply buy another battery. Why is this simple concept hard for you to understand?

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    8 months ago

    this chainless system might be the future of e-bike drivetrains

    No it won’t. This is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard of. Remember those e-scooters that were around in the 2010’s? I had one. They had pedals that were only there to comply with legal requirements and were almost entirely unable to propel the bike; you had to use the throttle. This is basically just one step above that. Just like those scooters, your bike is useless when the battery is low or dead. Meanwhile normal ebikes are perfectly functional bicycles without a battery.

    Also your chainless bike is going to turn into a pumpkin in 5 years once the company goes bust and you can’t buy replacement proprietary parts.

  • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 months ago

    So I read this as they doubled the electric motor weight on the bike, reduced energy efficiency by some 50% AND removed direct power transfer as backup. Sounds very promising!

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    8 months ago

    Oh my God. What a fucking stupid idea.

    How much efficiency is lost by this regarded system?