• Katana314@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    There’s a lot of options out there for alternate mail apps, but what I really need is a decent calendar app. Don’t like always having to rely on web browsers for that.

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    6 months ago

    I tried to change to Thunderbird but I can’t figure out how to make it work with my work e-mail. I’m wondering how much of that has to do with my work e-mail using office365. 🤔

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      Everything. O365/outlook do not use normal email protocols. On normal exchange you can enable imap. Do not know about o365 tho. Also unfortunatly you loose a lot of other features if you dare to step outside the walled garden.

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        6 months ago

        By default they use protocols specific to outlook/exchange/365. Sometimes referred to as activesync or outlook anywhere, which encapsulates their own protocol (I think it’s MAPI?) Over an HTTPS tunnel.

        These technologies have had a lot of names.

        In the past few years 365 also requires TLS 1.2 at least, and oauth. Oauth is when a mini browser window pops up for your 2FA info, like ms authenticator or duo or whatever your organisation is using. The nice thing about oauth is that it’s compatible with many identity providers, not just MS. The bad thing is that it’s fairly unique that outlook supports it. I don’t know of any other email clients that support it…

        Even if you can get passed the login, most mail clients don’t support MAPI over HTTPS the way that outlook does. There are some android/iPhone apps that support it, but that’s not universal either; the naming can fluctuate between the options I’ve mentioned earlier.

        The only good way to get this done (speaking as someone who has had to help someone get it working), the organizational email admin needs to enable either pop or (preferably) IMAP, and assign an application password to it. This password is long and usually a string of random characters. It gets saved to your email client software and it is used nowhere else. It’s been a long time since I’ve done this and I’m not sure it’s still supported like this.

        I hope that gives you more information as to the challenge ahead of you.

        Good luck.

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    6 months ago

    And how much does payroll add to my salary to use this shit at work so it can mine my data without consent? None.

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      If you’re at work, it’s not really “your” data. It’s “your company’s” data. And your company might be collecting even more data on you than Microsoft.

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        6 months ago

        You don’t think the data from my user session is being collected by Microsoft?

        I’m not just putting my company data into it, I’m putting my data into it too.

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      6 months ago

      What in particular do you feel like is missing? I mean, there’s a lot of stuff on Linux already. There’s no shortage of apps or games. But there might be some specific thing that you want that linux doesn’t have.

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    6 months ago

    “We just need to make sure that the data collection of your data collecting app is working on your data collecting OS so we’re gonna need to add some data collection on that.”

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    6 months ago

    Motherfuckers laughing at this meme carrying a smartphone checking their Gmail.

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      GrapheneOS is the answer. Apps can be sandboxed away from OS. No Gapps integrated into the OS. Camera disable button if you are really paranoid.

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        The only thing I hated about that kinda thing is depending on the phone you lose the camera perks. If I install this on my pixel 6 pro, does everything function more or less the same? I don’t want to be taking shit photos after installing a rom

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          You have to install the google camera app because it does the image processing. And I believe you need GSF to make it work, but thats a one-click install in graphenes own app store

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          You can install the Google Pixel Camera app if you want the functionality they offer. Grant it access to network upon install, then grant camera, microphone, location, sensors, and access tp all storage or assign a storage space. Should work as you expect oyher than it doesn’t integrate with the GrapheneOS gallery app, and prompts you to install google photos. you can still access photos by opening the Graphene gallery.

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      Nope. Im laughing at this meme carrying a smartphone checking my selfhosted linux postfix/dovecot email server.

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      I have outlook, gmail, protonmail, Roundcube mail accounts but mostly managed via IMAP. Guess I get to laugh and cry…

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        Here I am. Doesn’t mean I’m OK with it either. Not enough time in the day to figure out another solution.

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          Perfectly valid. And privacy isn’t all-or-nothing, you can still take some other steps to limit data collected from you, like switching your search engine or browser