Should sh.itjust.works preemptively defederate from Threads?

Threads is the not-so-new reddit-like twitter-like public forum platform by Meta, the same commercial company behind internet behemoths like Facebook, Instagram and Whatsapp. They’re working on ActivityPub integration so that they can bridge (federate?) with the fediverse. As far as I know, the focus is on Mastodon instances, but in the future that could include Lemmy instances too.

Some have raised the question, worried about the future of the fediverse or even claiming that it goes against its definition.

What do you think should be done?

EDIT: correction

EDIT.2: The Vote is on! Go make your voice heard. You have until Friday the 29th.

Fediverse instances’ status on federation with Threads

  • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
    1·
    10 months ago

    I have no interest in welcoming Facebook/Meta/Zuckerburg’s Big Goddamn Fucky Wucky Company to the Fediverse. I would vote to defederate from Threads and any instance federated with them.

  • ruplicant@sh.itjust.worksOP
    1·
    10 months ago

    my take on it is that i am completely against any kind of bridging between the platforms. i do think the fediverse in general is in danger, by being a victim of the “Embrace, Extend, Extinguish” strategy

    as many on lemmy, i use this platform because of its decentralized, open-source, not-for-profit nature, and think the whole fediverse community would be in jeopardy if we don’t act

    • ryathal@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      10 months ago

      Defederation is meaningless, what matters is the dev side. Federating doesn’t give them anything they couldn’t get other ways for slightly more effort. The problems come if you allow contributions the greater community doesn’t want to the code itself.

  • spiderkle@lemmy.ca
    0·
    10 months ago

    Everyone must only answer this question for themselves: Do you want to have extra content at the cost of potentially more ads & tracking? Because that’s their current monetization model.

  • kersploosh@sh.itjust.works
    01·
    10 months ago

    I’m taking off my admin hat and commenting as a user…

    One minor correction to OP’s post: Threads is a X/Twitter clone, not a Reddit clone.

    I’m in the wait-and-see camp. If Threads someday links to Lemmy, and if it becomes problematic for the function or culture of the platform, then I will be in favor of cutting them off.
    As @ryathal@sh.itjust.works mentioned, the real risk is that Meta starts steering Lemmy development in its favor. I don’t foresee that happening given that dessalines and nutomic oversee code contributions, and they certainly won’t allow it.

    As an aside, I’m not convinced Threads will last long to begin with. It isn’t looking like the X killer that Meta seemed to be hoping for. Meta has been trying to artificially drive engagement by creating shadow accounts for Facebook/Instagram users, and sticking Threads posts in people’s Facebook feeds. Integrating with Mastodon feels like a further attempt to entice Meta users to adopt a microblogging app that nobody asked for. At this rate it may fizzle and die before they ever get around to interacting with Lemmy.

  • Console_Modder@sh.itjust.works
    01·
    10 months ago

    The fun option would be to flood threads with shitposts and make them defederate from us when they start to lose advertisers

  • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
    01·
    10 months ago

    Don’t defederate immediately, but do it automatically three months after threads goes live if users don’t explicitly vote to keep it around. I wouldn’t mind seeing how it goes at first.