Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging Russians to have more children.
"Large families must become the norm," Putin said in a speech Tuesday.
Russian birth rates are falling amid war in Ukraine and a deepening economic crisis.
Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging women to have as many as eight children as the number of dead Russian soldiers continues to rise in his war with Ukraine, worsening the country’s population crisis.
Addressing the World Russian People’s Council in Moscow on Tuesday, Putin said the country must return to a time when large families were the norm.
“Many of our grandmothers and great-grandmothers, had seven, eight, or even more children,” Putin said.
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What doesn’t make sense to me is that even if women start churning out babies putin will be dead by the time theyre at fighting age? Is he just trying to help the next war hungry dictator after him?
He’s trying to repair the damage he’s done so that it doesn’t last a hundred years.
The entire reason he started this war was for legacy. He wanted to be the dictator that rebuilt the USSR like he always dreamed, and he’s running out of time, so he forced it and dug his heels in.
He does not want to be remembered as the dictator that killed off a generation with nothing to show for it, and set back Russia 100 years.
Unfortunately for him, that’s how he’ll likely be remembered anyway. At least in most of the world.
Well that and the end of russia itself maybe
He’s trying to be the legend who remade the Russian Empire of the late 1800s. It doesn’t matter so much that he’s alive for the Great Payoff™ – he needs to be the biggest name in the history books for centuries to come.
He knows he’s old and will die, and he knows he’s not going to achieve his big goals soon enough to directly benefit. So now he’s looking at his legacy.
That’s the stage when dictators *and narcissists become truly dangerous, by the way, because knowing they won’t directly see the fruits of their labour, they have less to lose.
e: added a word*
That is a brilliant summation, well done!
Getting major Mutterehrenkreuz vibes.
I wonder if women will start getting medals for babies, like soviet times? Another question, if these women are raising 8 kids, and all the men are dead in a sunflower field south of Avdivika, who the hell is supposed to be working in Russia for the next generation? Just banking on enslaving Ukraine to pay for the cost of enslaving Ukraine?
Narayana Murthy: People should be working 70 hours/week.
Vladimir Putin: Why so few?
They actually introduced pretty much that exact thing back in 2008, the Order of Parental Glory. Have more children to fuel the machine, please
Wait, what? Interesting. I didn’t know about its existance.
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He will probably do it between 2024 and 2030
Hey Putine, let me help ……
All you gotta do is excuse people from military service for being a parent. Pretty soon all military aged males will be parents and you’ll greatly reduce the number of deaths in Ukraine. Win-win
That’s actually pretty brilliant. Although it would also grind new recruits to a halt. It’s almost like he should retreat and take the L and try rebuilding
All you gotta do is excuse people from military service for being a parent. Pretty soon all military aged males will be parents and you’ll greatly reduce the number of deaths in Ukraine. Win-win
Sorta kinda exists, but you need at least 4 children below 18 years. But I don’t think this increases amount of military aged males or any doctors being parents.
Oh, so you need to start at the age of 14 max.
I mean children’s age))))
He meant that you’d have to start fathering children at 14 so that you could have 4 of them under 18 by the time you turn 18, which would be the age for military service.
Ah. I got it. So you won’t be conscripted after school. Well, there are other ways to delay it like leaving country or getting professional or higher education.
Or you can start at 17, but you will need 4 of them. MIMO approach. Or MISO. Depends how you view it.
Yeah, I know. I was joking. The ol’ Lemmy switcheroo.
I bet Putin sucks at StarCraft
we know he plays zerg at least
Jfc calm down bro. Didn’t need to go that far.
I’m waiting in line for my food giggling like a motherfucker at this comment. 🤣
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That’s one way to deal with an ageing population demographic.
Another way is to perhaps not throw every able-bodied young man into a militaristic meat grinder because you still yearn for the Soviet Union days.
He’s probably yearning for the Russian Empire instead of Soviet Union.
Russian governmental officials have some really outlandish views for an average Russian person.
They’re very religious, believe in conspiracies, actively anti-lgbt, don’t support abortions, antisemitic to name a few. None of these qualities are present in the general masses. They are in their own informational bubble.
As far as I understand it, he believes that the Russian Empire and collective Europe were always at each other’s throats, and that never changed for over 200 years. At the same time, Russia is a successor of the Russian Empire, and USSR is being omitted for some reason. That’s the simplistic explanation of it.
For you to understand how crazy that is, Russians (in general) have little to no idea of how the Empire worked and what the views those people held. USSR essentially wiped out all of that culture.
Ah, so Russian women are broodmares for the state now?
Always have been.
“Women will birth more”
“…so that I can send your children to be killed in my war…” Putin, probably.
Is he calling it a war now, or is it still a “special operation”?
As long as they aren’t being aborted then it’s fine, duh
Where are these women going to find suitable partners to pick from? The smart ones left or will leave, the others will be growing sunflowers.
pick
I think you’re making an assumption that this monster is not
Imma start up a mail order groom app for those russian ladies
*Male order
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Why past tense? They’re still dying.
Shh, don’t let those still alive know that!
Putin seems to be in a competition with Trump for the stupidest authoritarian prize.
Javier Milei, Matteo Salvini, Boris Johnson, Geert Wilders, Jair Bolsonaro & a frightening whole lot of others have entered the chat.
Well … I don’t want to say literally Hitler, but …
Literally Hitler
(No need to thank me)
Equal to abortion banning propaganda in the west.
By what metric?
Lack of abortion access breeds poverty. Poverty breeds the human grist for our military industrial complex mill. +Tie in to for-profit prison slave labor and inability to break the economic cycle of generational poverty and feed a cheap labor economy
Similar reasons and similar propaganda.
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Equal in the metric of people able to be sent to the war at 18.
That’s why even if Russia wins the war or got some concessions, it will be a Pyrrhic victory. They’re already experiencing population decline because of massive emigration aside from lower birth rate (which is why Putin is paying lip service to the conservative religious Russians to promote more birth, and in turn endeared him to conservatives across the world). The war will add to the burden of the Russian people on top of corruption and debt after the conflict.
They need the dogma of out breeding the competition so they can maintain a labor class without giving up any of the hoarded resources.
No sane people want to breed in our current conditions anywhere, so gotta make them insane with promises of eternal hurrdurr if only you crank out babies for God.
They need the dogma of out breeding the competition
That’s why the far-right in the West would love women to go back to their old baby churning role…
They’re working on it. Alongside the abortion fight, there are also Republicans fighting no fault divorce and there are Republicans fighting minimum marriage age laws.
So, basically, Putin is telling Russian women to “get fucked for Putin”?
Maybe “You got fucked by Putin and now go get fucked for Putin”
…angry upvote…
Nice. The dad jokes are improving… Well, actually it’s sorta an uncle joke.
Happy Friday
Thanks for helping me start my weekend with a laugh after a rough week.
Isn’t that what Elon said too ?
