• unfunnysexface@alien.topB
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      It’s weird because there’s a “generational” qb prospect every other draft. You really think we’d be drowning in great qb play

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    I think they’re both right in a way. It definitely is the greatest product it’s ever been in terms of entertainment. Also offenses have definitely improved in terms of coaching and player development. But defenses have stalled in those same two categories. The new rules definitely limits their ability to attack offenses and individual defenders have less traits to make themselves valuable

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    I think Tom was specifically talking about qb play and making some extrapolations from that. he’s been talking about disliking changes (defenseless receiver, lifting of number regulations, etc) for years.

    The game is changing. I’d like less ticky tack penalty but other wise I’m good. The people complaining about the game going “soft” are irritating.

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      It’s not that the game is going soft, it’s that it seems like every pass is a screen or checkdown. It’s boring as fuck to watch.

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      If not soft, than what would you call it? The rules are actively being changed to discourage and/or negate play styles similar to Ray Lewis, Rodney Harrison and Ronnie Lott (Brady’s words). Defense is being hamstrung and handicapped seemingly more and more every season.

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        I think the word “soft” in this context is so dumb. It lacks any nuance and basically just sounds like someone complaining they or other people can’t be a dick anymore.

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      I disagree. Brady has made “game has gone soft” comments before, but I think these are literally about mediocrity. I think he sees it all connected. When hes says players don’t work on the fundamentals of protecting themselves anymore, hes implying there other fundamentals they also arent working on.

      This is the 4th straight year scoring has gone down, and game threads here are filled with comments about shitty play. This a different complaint than “game gone soft.”

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        Players definitely don’t try and protect themselves. Look how Tua just fell over like a limp toddler several times in a row and now he probably can’t remember his middle.name anymore.

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        Not to mention the rules that protected the quarterback came into effect in the early 2000s, so Brady can’t really say “the game had gone soft” when he spent almost his entire career playing under the same rules.

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        If you ask me, I think we’re seeing the negative impact of how insane contracts for star players have gotten in comparison to the overall cap. You can’t have 2 players contributing 60+ million to the cap and expect a team to still be stellar IMO. Chiefs are a great example this year.

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          I don’t think contracts are a problem in what’s going on with play. The top end contracts got bloated, but almost all of the middle class is gone now and replaced with rookie contract and vet min guys.

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    I blame Tom for a lot of why the league is the way it is. Can’t touch the QB anymore

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        I really think the QB rules wouldn’t be as crazy as they are. We have QBs putting up RB numbers and they aren’t allowed to be touched. Players are scared to hit them when they run, it’s ridiculous

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          I think you can insert any top QBs name there and say hes the reason why the league made rules to keep QBs safer. Dont think its fair to single out brady cause he had the gall to be an elite QB during the time where the league was growing massively with the rise of the all the new media platforms etc etc. The league would’ve made new rules with the existence of any elite QB playing

          It is what it is. The sport is astronomically more entertaining when elite QBs are healthy and playing well, and available to play in big games during the reg season and then around for the playoffs. It isnt rocket science to understand why some rules were made to keep those dudes on the field.

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    Barry being happy the Lions are a better team today doesn’t negate the fact that the quality of play in the NFL has become mediocre…

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    I was in my early twenties watching the Lions play the Vikings in the thanksgiving game in 1995. Barry Sanders uniform came untucked. He was stuffing them back in while the announcers were blathering on. They kept the camera rolling and when Barry, my favorite player all-time, btw, had his uniform nice and tight, I watched his teammate take a can of nonstick cooking spray and lather his jersey and pants with it. The announcer started to make a comment but quickly shut his mouth. They cut away and into the dust bins of history it went.

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    I think defenses are just catching up to the offensive boom we’ve had for the last several years.

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    Aaron Rodgers is a that. You’re a QB, dude, not even a real football player… easy to talk about how soft the game is when you’re protected like a roll of Charmin in bubble wrap by every rule in the book.

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    He didnt really throw much shade at Tom outside I guess the teams he once played for which isnt really shade at Tom.

    Barely just kinda says he thinks the current NFL is great especially the Lions.

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    Anyone else think Aaron Rodgers response to Brady’s comments is kinda funny considering he got hurt in his first game on his new team playing the most protected position in the game? Lol

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      Even the stars suck with inconsistency, though. It’s part injuries, part similar coaching styles (checkdown checkdown screen), the run game is hardly a threat anymore.

      The entire league is turning into college ball style and it’s boring as fuck to watch.

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    As great as Barry was, he doesn’t really have much credibility against a mind like brady who was a QB and had to analyze all assets of the game and elevated his teams. Not to mention the fact brady played until he was 45 while Barry retired early. Guys like Brady, Manning, etc are just on another level and agree with their takes when u look around the league.

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      As great as a potential GOAT RB was, he doesn’t really have much credibility because he didn’t really learn anything because he was just a runningback and Tom Brady was a quarterback. Not to mention Barry Sanders only played for 10 years in the NFL, so that means he was barely in the league. Only QBs like Brady, Manning etc with 18-20+ years of experience know anything about the NFL.

      that’s what you sound like to me lol