I predict that, within the year, AI will be doing 100% of the development work that isn’t total and utter bullshit pain-in-the-ass complexity, layered on obfuscations, composed of needlessly complex bullshit.
That’s right, within a year, AI will be doing .001% of programming tasks.
Big companies will take 5 years just to get there.
Fellow freelancer, I see.
Can we just get it to attend meetings for us?
“look i registered my own domain name all by myself!”
the domain: “localhost”
I’m an elite hacker and I grabbed your IP address from this post. It’s 192.168.0.1 just so you know I’m not bluffing.
Heheh I’m ddossing them right now. Unfortunately the computer I’m doing it on is having a few connection issues
That gave me a nice chuckle lmao
I’m afraid you need to turn it off and on again
Haha punk it’s actually 192.168.1.1. you dun goofed
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He’s going through a VNC obfuscation layer. His real IP address is 10.0.0.1
Shaking my smh stop trying to sound like a hacker, VNC is for watching videos
Nah bro I’m the haxkdder nemad 4chan and I dox u vip asdres it 10.0.1.1.223.3.01
int ipadress = unhappy_grapefruit2.hacked();
Dude, you need to use the broadcast address.
lol that’s not my ip, you’re like 6 numbers off
I’m an elite FBI KGB K-unit traffic guard. You dun goofed with your silly hacking attempts as I’ve traced your IP back to ::1. Prepare to get your ass counter-hacked
Wow, these new TLDs are terrible! ICANN has really lost it this time!
Engineering is about trust. In all other and generally more formalized engineering disciplines, the actual job of an engineer is to provide confidence that something works. Software engineering may employ fewer people because the tools are better and make people much more productive, but until everyone else trusts the computer more, the job will exist.
If the world trusts AI over engineers then the fact that you don’t have a job will be moot.
People don’t have anywhere near enough knowledge of how things work to make their choices based on trust. People aren’t getting on the subway because they trust the engineers did a good job; they’re doing it because it’s what they can afford and they need to get to work.
Similarly, people aren’t using Reddit or Adobe or choosing their cars firmware based on trust. People choose what is affordable and convenient.
In civil engineering public works are certified by an engineer; its literally them saying if this fails i am at fault. The public is trusting the engineer to say its safe.
Yeah, people may not know that the subway is safe because of engineering practices, but if there was a major malfunction, potentially involving injuries or loss of life, every other day, they would know, and I’m sure they would think twice about using it.
What’s being discussed here is the hiring of engineers rather than consumer choices. Hiring an engineer is absolutely an expression of trust. The business trusts that the engineer will be able to concretely realize abstract business goals, and that they will be able to troubleshoot any deviations.
AI writing code is one thing, but intuitively trusting that an AI will figure out what you want for you and keep things running is a long way off.
In my hometown there’s two types of public transit: municipal and commercial. I was surprised to learn that a lot of folk, even the younger ones, only travel by former, even though the commercials are a lot faster, frequent and more comfortable. When asked why, the answer is the same: If anything happens on municipal transport - you can sue the transport company and even the city itself. If anything happens on a commercial line - there’s only a migrant driver and “Individual Enterpreneur John Doe” with a few leased buses to his name. Trust definitely plays a factor here, but you’re right that it’s definitely not based on technical knowledge.
It’s more thrust than trust.
As someone who works on the city side of development review, I can firmly say I’ll trust a puppy alone with my dinner than a Civil Engineer.
Hmm. I’ve never thought about it that way. It took a long time for engineering to become that way IIRC - in the past anybody could build a bridge. The main obstacle to this, then, is that people might be a bit too risk-tolerant around AI at first. Hopefully this is where it ends up going, though.
Very interesting point. Probably the most pressing problem then is to find a way for the black box to be formally verified and the role of AI engineers shifts to keeping the CI\CD green.
I just used copilot for the first time. It made me a ton of call to action text and website page text for various service pages inwas creating for a home builder. It was surprisingly useful, of course I modified the output a bit but overall saved me a ton of time.
Copilot has cut my workload by about 40% freeing me up for personal projects
Copilot is only dangerous in the hands of people who couldn’t program otherwise. I love it, it’s helped a ton on tedious tasks and really is like a pair programmer
Yeah it’s perfect for if you can distinguish between good and bad generations. Sometimes it tries to run on an empty text file in vscode and it just outputs an ingredients list lol
Copilot has cut my personal projects by about 40% freeing me up for work
See, your mistake was telling your employer that you have free time.
i get copilot through github education and let me tell you the first time i put out a bunch of code related to one of my entities, i was floored. it’s definitely not there to write your entire app but it saves so much time
I think the correct response is “Wow. Has your mom seen it? Send her the link.”
This is so evil I love it
why? wouldn’t she simply be unable to open it too?
If it’s on the same device, it would open a page showing her what is in the downloads folder of his user. I think the joke is he might have something embarrassing there, but I wouldn’t know since I only have things there when I’m downloading them and then immediately file them away to some actual hyperspecific folder
why would they be on the same device? how can they be on the same device at the same time? also if she gets the full link it would only show her the html page, not the rest of the folder
I think it’s both?
- Send link to her but it doesn’t work because it’s only available on the local machine
- Show the website by first opening the downloads folder then clicking the website
You can bring your device to people. Most people use laptops now instead of desktops
The joke is that ben’s mom will ask him how to open it. Ben thinks that it is possible, ben will have a bad time.
AI is only as good as the person using it, like literally any other tool in human existence.
It’s meant to amplify the workload of the professional, not replace them with a layman armed with an LLM.
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What’s most likely to happen is that the idiot on the other side would start complaining to the AI and asking to talk to a manager.
And maybe he gets the right hallucination and the AI starts behaving as a manager
This AI thing will certainly replace my MD to HTML converter and definitely not misplace my CSS and JS headers
MD to HTML? You are a blessing dude.
Yea of course! I can link a bitbucket for the file if you’d like. It’s hardcoded to my file structure, but should still be useful if you need something like it
Not really a progrmmer myself (just bash and a bit of python and html), idk what a bitbucket is buy i’d take it just in case if I decide to learn it. Thx a lot!
Tbf I don’t really wanna do ops work. I barely even wanna do DevOps. Let me just dev
Me too 😭
I don’t want to “kubectl”, I want to " make" 😭so write a Makefile that calls kubectl!
You don’t need to convince the devs, you need to convince the managers.
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Wow, there is a lot of pearl-clutching and gatekeeping ITT. It’s delicious!
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The one task that pretty much everyone agrees could be done by a monkey
A phrase commonly uttered about web dev by mediocre programmers who spend 99% of the time writing the same copy-paste spring boot mid-tier code
most of the websites are bloated and shit. Webdev is shit upon because they write code that can’t work 4 months without needing a rewrite
A good chunk of that has to do with trackers and ads. Things forced on webdevs by management.
Not that webdevs couldn’t improve anything otherwise; there are certainly optimizations to be had. But pop open the dev network panel on your browser, clear cache, and refresh the page. A lot of the holdup and dancing elements you’ll see are from third party trackers and ads.
I agree, and in addition to way too many trackers and advertisements clogging up the page, this is also due to the time, effort, and knowledge not being provided to write performant and compliant code, which should be important given the infinite possibilities of client machines. This can be worsened by only having full stack developers who aren’t knowledgeable in web dev (especially CSS) or by sacrificing performance for trendy javascript-bloated design features
You do of course realize that you just said that the problem with the modern web is that webdev can be and far too often is done by monkeys?
I agree that there is a vast difference, even from an end user’s perspective, between a good web developer and a bad one, but the fact remains that the bar for calling oneself a web dev is appallingly low and ChatGPT nevertheless fails to clear it
I suppose you could see it like that, but I’m saying it can’t be done by “monkeys”, and the pervasive notion that it can has led to broken websites across the Internet
I think I see what you mean. Many a very competent backend dev (and many more a kid in their bedroom with zero programming experience) has thought to themselves “how hard can webdev possibly be?” and blindly stumbled through making a website that looks fine on their machine without bothering to understand what the various CSS units do and turning it into an utter monstrosity if you even slightly change the size of the browser window, and the web suffers for it.
As a primarily backend dev myself who’s tried my hand at web once or twice, I still think that web developers are by far the most pampered in the industry when it comes to development tools (I can change CSS parameters with sliders right in my browser, see the page update in real time, and when I’m done I can just export the modified .css file to disk and upload it directly to my server with zero touchup to make my changes live? Are you KIDDING ME?) but I also think it’s important to treat the practice with the respect it deserves. By that I mean taking the time to learn the languages, read through MDN’s excellent documentation, and take the time to fully understand what each CSS parameter actually does instead of trial-and-erroring your way into something that only works for you. The same thing you’d do if you were learning any new programming language. Once you do that, apart from a few hiccups due to browser inconsistencies (any time Safari would like to stop eating glue I’d appreciate it) and having to come up with something that looks good in portrait, and get past a metric f**k ton of googling and memorizing the minute differences between dozens of very similar parameters, it’s some of the most fun I’ve had as a programmer. I love being able to just go “I want a bunch of circles at the top of my page that bounce up and down in sequence.” “Sure, give me two minutes.” I’d stress about that for days in any other environment. Why didn’t anyone tell me it could BE like this?
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I am astonished at your ignorance and your arrogance
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I still have nightmares dealing with a11y requirements
Same but it’s very important
I don’t think it’s very useful at generating good code or answering anything about most libraries, but I’ve found it to be helpful answering specific JS/TS questions.
The MDN version is also pretty great too. I’ve never done a Firefox extension before and MDN Plus was surprisingly helpful at explaining the limitations on mobile. Only downside is it’s limited to 5 free prompts/day.
Chat gpt is also great if you have problems with Linux. It is my nr 1 trouble shooting tool.
These morons are probably going to train AI wrong so job security for the next 100 years.
Might be about time for testers to start cr4pping their pants tho.
only because ai hasn’t replaced the client… yet
Who has four thumbs and a top tier business plan? This AI!
Bruh this cracked me up
Bruh good to hear bruh, bruh
