One got a Super Bowl ring and regressed with age.
The other has gotten better as more weapons developed around him.
The rare win win
Rams have a Super Bowl ring and the lions have welllll … no rings … Rams won that deal
I feel like people are trying to math a way to the Rams losing this trade. They won a Super Bowl, they won the trade. The Lions also won the trade.
I think the Rams got exactly what they were hoping for. So win for them.
I think the Lions have probably gotten more out of Goff than they expected. So win for them, with the possibility that he can still take the team to at least a conference championship in the next year or two.
As a Lions fan, Agree. Stafford was never going to win a SB in Detroit, and Goffs situation in LA was going to just get more toxic. This worked for both parties. Everyone is happy.
If the Lions can win a Super Bowl and contend for other years, could probably make the statement they win the trade as it appears Rams are one and done.
But Super Bowl > Anything
We both won. They got a super bowl, we’re no longer irrelevant.
It’s literally this easy, the rams did not make that move with long term in mind, they wanted to win that year and they did. It worked. Lions wanted to rebuild and it set the rebuild up perfectly. I don’t think either side is disappointed with how it’s turned out. Rams knew very well this would happen a couple of years after.
This is how trades are literally supposed to work. If you aren’t contending for championships right now, trade your aging high-value assets in exchange for pieces to rebuild. If you ARE contending for championships, sell out your future for pieces to win immediately. Worked out perfectly for both sides.
hope the lions go and get one with him
Any Rams fans who act like we lost this trade are just exposing themselves as the most Laker fans of all Lakers fans and don’t know what it’s like to watch a team that doesn’t win all the time
Call it naivete if you want, but the Rams thought the trade was good for both the present (2021 season) and the long term. The present is obvious, but they felt they had a guy they’d get many good years from in Stafford and that they were only a QB away. They had been dealing away high picks (while quietly accumulating late picks) for years and the system stayed sustainable so they figured they could keep it going. Things falling apart in 2022 was not according to plan though to be fair, no one thought the Rams would collapse like that before the season started. This year, moves were made in a reaction to 2022 to rebuil–err–“re-tool”. But even then, the idea has been Stafford is our long term QB and we’ll be a contender again in 2024 with all our picks and a lot of open cap space. You can call some of that delusional, but that’s been the thinking from this team.
I believe it, just unlikely they’ll be able to contend with such an aging roster. But again, they got the super bowl, I’d say it was a success even if they win less than 5 games each of the next 5 years lol
Yeah I’m not sure how much I agree with some of the post-championship decisions the team has made, but everything is worth it because we won the Super Bowl. Really hoping you guys get yours. Would love it for Lions fans and would love it for Goff.
Rams have the 2nd youngest roster in the league.
No complaints :)
Stop it with this rational take of yours! We need a sexy headline and somebody has to be a loser of the trade!
Seriously, i’d give up the next 20 years of Falcons football for a Super Bowl, as would most other non-spoiled teams (ie. Patriots).
Correct. I remember morons on podcasts saying if the rams lost the Super Bowl they would have lost the trade which is equally stupid but there’s no way the rams lose the trade with a ring. And lions are gaining ground every week cuz of how Goff plays.
The Rams got a ring. The Lions got substantial tools to rebuild and are currently threatening to take the NFC one-seed.
There are no losers in this trade.
One has a super bowl ring and the other is top 5 for the year.
Seems like a win/win trade if there ever was one
Can’t be a win-win if one team got a SB and the other hasn’t (yet). Not saying the Lions lost, but the jury is still out on them.
Even if Stafford retires tomorrow and Goff goes on to win a superbowl this season, its still a win win trade both ways
The Goff and Mcvay relationship had deteriorated. Badly. Goff needed a hard reset and to be humbled a little. Thats built him into the QB he is today. Mcvay just needed someone with slight more talent (at the time mind you) to put all the chips in on and make a run. They both come out winners. Rooting for Jared. Stafford is still good but i am curious to see if rams are gonna move him and just opt for a fresh QB in the building
There’s not a doubt in my mind that there is nothing more mcvay wants to see outside of success for the rams than success for Jared Goff. There was no animosity but the project had run its course and it was clear who was holding the team back. Andrew Whitworth I believe has come out and said Goff asked for a sit down with mcvay after the trade that was essentially a debriefing of what went wrong and how he could improve as a player.
It’s like the girl you broke up with because you were going to different colleges, and you both found someone great who you worked out with perfectly. But her perfect is marrying a dude who’s dad runs a fortune 500 and he’s got a 7 figure salary out of college, and your perfect is you and your wife both work high 5 figure jobs, 5 days a week.
I feel personally attacked by that entire second paragraph
Yeah, they did what they wanted and won a SB in that window
If the Lions win it all this year, while a win/win, we have the better end because we are built for the long term unlike LA was. That being said it’s all about the rings so they have won it thus far
Top 5 where? On the Lions?
I’m not sure Goff is a top 5 QB this year but he’s up there.
He’s not, but definitely top 10 or 12.
I’d say top 10 at worst. Mahomes, Burrow, Allen are all clearly ahead. I think (at least this year) he’s in that Herbert/Jackson/Hurt tier
allen is not ahead, this year at least
Put Goff on the Bills, with no running game and no OC, and it wouldn’t be pretty either.
They got a cup we got our guy
Until you realize that the Rams still would have won it with Goff.
It was the perfect trade.
Rams won on their part
Lions are probably going to be in QB purgatory for the next 3-4 years. If they win a playoff game I’d say both parties won.
I honestly agree. Goff seems good enough that it’s hard to justify replacing him but not good enough to truly elevate a team on his own. I feel like we’re probably going to spend a couple years making shallow playoff runs/losing other talent in order to truly recognize it
Another rare feat of a win/win trade. Definitely didn’t look like that the first year but from the bye last year to now. Goff has been playing like a top 5-7 qb to warrant keeping him(he showed flashes though earlier than that but it was then where he kept it going)
growing up watching stafford it was hard to get away from wanting that gunslinger bombs away qb but goff’s style is really growing on me and can be fun to watch him march down the field and really be a field general, win win trade 100%
People want there to be a winner/loser to a trade so bad. Sometimes motives for a trade are different. Both teams achieved their motive, and the league is better for it
Yeah, Rams needed a QB to get them over the edge, Lions needed draft picks to rebuild. We got really lucky that Goff was also a long term solution and it sped up the rebuild a lot. Lions also weren’t going to be able to win a Super Bowl with Stafford and not the extra draft capital. Both teams are better off for the trade, nobody regrets it, nobody lost
I don’t really give Stafford that much credit for the Super Bowl (which is the argument people use to say it was a great trade). Let’s try to be objective. In 2019 the Rams (with Goff) lost to the New England Patriots, Tom Brady and Belichick. They lost to a dynasty that was making its 3rd straight Super Bowl.
In 2022 the Rams (with Stafford) got lucky against the 49ers (interception should have been caught to end game). Then they faced the Bengals in Super Bowl. As much as you might like the Bengals and Burrow, not the same as playing against the Patriots, Brady and Belichick.
So in totality, I don’t think Stafford was the reason Rams won the SB; nor do I think Goff was reason Rams lost the SB.
Do I think Stafford is better QB than Goff… the jury is out.
Staffords playoff run in 2021 was head and shoulders better than any of Goffs playoff performances.
Goff has improved a lot now no question. He’s played like a top 10 at times top 5 QB. Let’s see how it goes in the postseason.
Lions bros yall happy?
Cuz Rams bros are happyRams <> Lions friendship was a bonus to the trade for sure
Its actually like this >< So we can touch tips
Agreed. I’ll always cheer for Goff.
Lions get to watch Staff get a ring and the rams get to watch Goff cook again like we all knew he could.
It’s literally the definition of great trade
I absolutely love how so many of us assumed Goff would be a bridge - and maybe even the Lions felt that way too to a degree. But they let him grow and built around him. I want more of this from NFL teams. So tired of tossing QBs aside Much of the QB position is between the ears. Great story.
Well one is in his prime years and one is sunsetting.
Here’s the thing. Goff was never going to work out with McVay. He is a hyperactive in the moment coach. For me, that’s always been his biggest negative. He does not have any patience, none. Not during games, and not when it comes to looking ahead.
He’s a now guy. Us Rams fans have learned to accept this fact.
Goff found success with McVay because of two things, OL play and having Todd Gurley and Cooper Kupp. That made defenses have to settle back for just about every snap.
Goff has the cannon, and he has the accuracy too. But, when he was a Ram he still needed time. When he didn’t have time he was an absolute mess. Not a terrible QB, but he just didn’t have what McVay wanted back there.
He’s grown as a player, and a person. Campbell gave him the leeway to find his comfort zone and got him a great OL.
I was, and still am a believer in Goff. I enjoy watching him, and I hope he takes Motor City to the promised land, I really do.
However, there is not a chance in hell. I mean zero chance that Goff engineers the drive that Staff Daddy engineered with just him and Coop to win the SB. That shit was just him and CK in the sandlot. It was glorious, and as a Rams fan I wouldn’t trade that drive for anything.
Good luck Jared, the KC game was legendary, and I hope you can be legendary in Detroit, but Staff Daddy got us The Drive and The Ring.
Rings all around would make me happy, and my buddy that is a Lions fan feels the same way. No hard feelings, everyone is cool. I hope it goes that way eventually.
Until Detroit wins a Super Bowl LA wins the trade
The Lions used one of the 1st round picks to trade up for Jameson Williams, but they traded with the Vikings who took Lewis Cine. Facilitating/enabling a division rival to draft Lewis Cine means the Lions win this trade no matter else happens.
Its not like Jamo has been that much better of a player for them. Both barely see the field
JAMO is getting better, had a huge downfield block on Monty’s 75 yard td run.
Had a TD removed because of a weak flag away from the play.
His day is coming