8GB ram was the standard over 10 years ago, things have changed and so many apps have been hogging more ram with each update. I have a 8GB Mac Mini and I worry about constant swap memory (thanks Edge and Sketch) so instead, I have to switch using my other Mac Mini with 16GB of ram.
i dont get the point of this discussion.
if your workload requires 8gb or less on a daily bassis, then get the 8gb. if it requires 16, then get 16.
it’s that simple.
It is so funny that there are so many YouTubers claiming that 8GB in a Pro laptop is “enough”.
At the same time, I cannot accept the fact that we can’t even get more than 36GB of RAM in a Pro computer. Not even the base Max version allows 48/64 GB of RAM.
A MacBook is a luxury computer. If I was worried about my “pro” workload cost to performance ratio I’d run it on a Linux desktop I built myself. Did that for years until my career took off and I could afford a MBP with the specs I needed. Ryzen 7 7800X3D and 128GB of ram can be had for less than the base MBP. Why is this even a discussion?
As someone who owns and iPhone, watch, and iPad…. Fairly into the Apple ecosystem. I have absolutely zero clue why people buy these things. My Dell G7 has 32GB of RAM and a 2060 in it. Smokes these things and is much, much cheaper. 8GB is straight up disposable chrome book territory lmao.
Really, the M3 “Pro” makes no sense at all…if you spend $400 more, you get 18GB of RAM AND the M3 Pro chip!
The only people that should even consider the base models are those that “live in the cloud” and do super basic tasks (emails, short word documents, and stream a video here and there). Everyone else should definitely go for a Mac with at least 16GB of RAM.
A Ford Explorer comes with a 4 cylinder engine in most trim levels. V8 or nuthin man. How do they sell these things. I guess the 4-cyl gets you to the soccer game but how are you going to pull a horse trailer?
The hell is a hobbyist?
As someone who’s still happy with my 2019 16” MBP this is music to my ears.
Between all the user backlash and the upcoming Qualcomm SoC and Windows ARM laptops this just means competition will be amazing in 2024 and the M4 refresh should be significant.
Hate how expensive memory and storage upgrades are but I’ll need to upgrade my MacBook eventually and a windows laptop might be a better option.
8gb in 2021 was not enough and Reddit needs to get on with the program.
Apple being Apple
New Mac’s make me sad. Really want one, I know it will be much more powerful than my aging Mac mini. But I refuse to pay lots for locked in memory and storage designed for us to spend more and repeatedly. Plus there is no repairing or replacing parts now
Non M owner here, isn’t the RAM in these machines a faster type of RAM since it’s used as both system memory and VRAM? And if it’s faster then normal RAM is that why the M machines do good even at 8GB compare to 16GB of slower normal RAM?
It is normal RAM. There’s nothing special about LPDDR5X now. They do share it between CPU and GPU, that brings some advantages in that both can access the memory, but some disadvantages compared to dedicated VRAM as your GPU can now eat a chunk of that 8GB. Window Server is using 1.5GB RAM for me right now. That’s essentially memory all used by the GPU to render macOS’ UI.
Short answer… yes. SOC architecture allows for equivalent performance with better power efficiency, meaning better performance with equivalent power efficiency.
There are 500$ laptops with i5s or R5s and 16GB ram standard. Obv not Apple build quality and slower CPU, but they cost way less and may outperform a MBP in some cases.