I don’t know if this is 100% strictly privacy related but I think it does fall in the sphere of protecting one’s right to express oneself privately.

"Government officials have drawn up deeply controversial proposals to broaden the definition of extremism to include anyone who “undermines” the country’s institutions and its values, according to documents seen by the Observer.

The new definition, prepared by civil servants working for cabinet minister Michael Gove, is fiercely opposed by a cohort of officials who fear legitimate groups and individuals will be branded extremists.

The proposals have provoked a furious response from civil rights groups with some warning it risks “criminalising dissent”, and would significantly suppress freedom of expression."

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      Lol fr. It’s like they watched all the movies and books about dystopia and thought, “okay, this looks good, let’s do this”

      Even the wording and grammar sounds like they are doing a 1984 parody

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        Honestly a lot of things today seem like funhouse mirrors of scifi dystopias. There is something to be asked of chicken or the egg with our similarities. Did the writers just think about how we would eventually end up and just got slightly wrong with the details or did someone with terrible social skills and a fucked up hyper focused head think it was a good idea and aimed to make it reality.

        It happens all the time with items from Star Trek. Literally engineers wanting to make the gadgets they saw and even Meta pulls it’s name from a dystopia novel that Zuck thinks is neat instead of horrifying.

        So do we put forth ideas only to normalize them and make them true? Do thoughts become reality whether good or bad? Or do people have the ability to extrapolate where we are heading through guess work and random chance with enough time and effort?

        Because I’m horrified if twilight becomes real… Oh God is it already real?? Has anyone been to Utah lately?!

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    The day after the 5th of November. Nothing bad ever happens when you suppress the freedom of speech and the right to protest.

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      Remember, remember!
      The fifth of November,
      The Gunpowder treason and plot;
      I know of no reason
      Why the Gunpowder treason
      Should ever be forgot!
      Guy Fawkes and his companions
      Did the scheme contrive,
      To blow the King and Parliament
      All up alive.
      Threescore barrels, laid below,
      To prove old England's overthrow.
      But, by God's providence, him they catch,
      With a dark lantern, lighting a match!
      A stick and a stake
      For King James's sake!
      If you won't give me one,
      I'll take two,
      The better for me,
      And the worse for you.
      A rope, a rope, to hang the Pope,
      A penn'orth of cheese to choke him,
      A pint of beer to wash it down,
      And a jolly good fire to burn him.
      Holloa, boys! holloa, boys! make the bells ring!
      Holloa, boys! holloa boys! God save the King!
      Hip, hip, hooor-r-r-ray!
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      Honestly I think climate protests are the least of your concern. Before you know it we will need to be careful not to commit though crime as then the thought police will find us

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    broaden the definition of extremism to include anyone who “undermines” the country’s institutions and its values

    Guess I’m an extremist 🤷‍♂️

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      Who gets to define what the country’s values are? Who defines which activities undermine them and its institutions? You could plausibly argue that the present Conservative government is working hard to undermine the country’s values and institutions. You could argue that introducing this very bill is an attempt to undermine the country’s values and institutions.

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      Proper nomenclature is “domestic terrorist”

      Funny how mouth breather right loved patriot act until recently …

      Now they woke up but it is too late!

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    “You’re no longer allowed to be upset at your government and if you are you’ll be met with violence”

    people use violence

    “They just love violence nobody said they were upset!”

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      if you’re serious, then here’s two places i recommend to make a start on that train of thought

      https://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org should clue you in on which “advanced economies” might skew towards the life factors that interest you

      and https://www.hofstede-insights.com/country-comparison-tool might help you narrow down which of these will be a better cultural fit

      i’m aware there’s a lot of subjectivity in these two links but, it could help you make a start.

      many people are great at saying “get me out of here” online, but not many people follow up that thought, and ask themselves “but where to?”

      be one of those who answers the second question. start working on your escape today! 💪

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        I also left, for me in 2021.

        Life really is better if you can get out. The process is no walk in the park but it is a temporary pain.

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          I think one of the things I’ll miss the most if I do is the London underground. it’s such a convenient form of travel for me

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            Many major cities in Europe have a metro system similar to London Underground. I live in Barcelona, and their metro has LU beat hands down. Trains come literally every two minutes and cost a little over a Euro when you buy a 10-ride ticket

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    Sweet Jesus, it really is time to bail. Any recommendations on where to go? I’m hearing the weather is much better in France and Spain.

    Is Scotland on board with this dictatorship malarky or are they fighting it? I didn’t see them kick up a fuss about the online safety bill which made it to law, which makes me think they aren’t fighting it.

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      Yeah but how do we leave without a crap ton of money to buy our citizenship in another country?

      I was considering moving to Scotland if they vote to leave the UK and rejoin the EU

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        I honestly dont know how most of us can make a move happen. Its a shit state of affairs.

        I hoped that Scotland was going to be our get out of jail card too. I’m still hoping.

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        You don’t have to buy citizenship in the United States or Canada. Both countries are also fighting internal fascism, but it’s not as bad as what we’re seeing in the UK.

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          Being a permanent resident is essentially buying citizenship since you’re not allowed to work, living in those countries without working isn’t cheap

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            Every immigrant I know has a work visa. They work and live here. Their lives are basically the same as regular citizens except they can’t be unemployed, they have to update their visa every year, and they can’t vote. After 7 years on a work visa you can apply for citizenship in the United States.

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      France is right behind the UK right now. It’s not as bad yet but will be in the near future.

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    For those that don’t know, look at Michael Gove -

    And remember that wimpy kid from your school who was horribly, horribly bullied

    Then think about what a fuckin psychopath they’d be now if they were in a position of power

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      You down with CCP (Yeah you know me)

      Who’s down with CCP (Every last homie)

      You down with CCP (Yeah you know me)

      Who’s down with CCP (All the homies)

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Government officials have drawn up deeply controversial proposals to broaden the definition of extremism to include anyone who “undermines” the country’s institutions and its values, according to documents seen by the Observer.

    The new definition, prepared by civil servants working for cabinet minister Michael Gove, is fiercely opposed by a cohort of officials who fear legitimate groups and individuals will be branded extremists.

    Last week the home secretary, Suella Braverman, described pro-Palestinian demonstrations in London as “hate marches”, prompting dismay from many participants who consider themselves peace campaigners.

    Martin Bright, editor-at-large, Index on Censorship, added: “This is an unwarranted attack on freedom of expression and would potentially criminalise every student radical and revolutionary dissident.

    The government’s 2011 Prevent strategy defined extremism as the “active opposition to fundamental British values, including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and the mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs”.

    Under the proposed definition in the documents, extremism would be the promotion of any ideology which aims to “overturn or undermine the UK’s democracy, its institutions and values; or threaten the rights of individuals or create a permissive environment for radicalisation, hate crime and terrorism”.


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