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- badnews@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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- badnews@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Usually code contributions by various LLMs are easily identifiable because the agent is the author for the git commit. Mozilla on the other hand seem to be explicitly encouraging unattributed LLM code in Firefox. Also note jakearchibald, Mozillas AI spin doctor whenever devs question their intentions, lying about the reasons for this change. I think their true intentions are to muddy the waters to hide the amount of slop contributions in Firefox.
It’s firefox minus the slop
This change is about preventing AI from trying to own the change. A human must own the change.
AI cannot own a Firefox contribution. AI cannot commit code to Firefox. Only a human may do that.
If a human uses AI (or autocomplete / a formatter / a transpiler / whatever else) to help them author code, that doesn’t devolve them of responsibility. The human must take ownership and responsibility for the output.
For example, if we later run git-blame on a section of the code, we want to see the human that took responsibility for the code, not some AI.
Firefox’s policy on AI code: https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/contributing/ai-coding.html
Perfect way honestly. Same philosophy we follow. I don’t care how you made the PR, you’re responsible for it and you need to be able to defend and explain it. If we get a “I don’t know, chatGPT told me this” reject.
That… Sounds like a good change actually??
Wait just a minute, that sounds… reasonable?
This won’t do! I’ve already fetched my pitchfork and ignited my torch!
I’m convinced the Brave shills have been posting Firefox misinformation for years
How many human eyes of experienced programmers will have looked at the code?
A whoopsie in the web browser is significantly worse than in an… I don’t know… than in a vibe-coded so-called “AI” framework/social network. /s
We can crash rockets without use of LLMs, thank you very much https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariane_flight_V88
That’s good news! Thanks for looking into it.
Side note, Firefox now has AI settings you have to manually turn off on it’s settings.
It was horse shit when jakearchibald wrote it; its still horse shit now.
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I want to trust young programmers to not abuse AI but deep down I know the answer, and so do you
You tell people they can turn their brain off and trust the AI enough and they might just start doing it.
I’m sure there will be some that won’t. But it will probably be a shockingly small number of them that care enough to not.
JFC is the new CEO a plant to burn the browser to the ground?
Nothing is stopping a human contributor from using AI without attribution already.
Let’s say there’s an issue and you want to include the original stakeholder about the change. Instead you hit a dead end, annotation says AI but no way to reach the human that initiated the change.
I would believe you if you told me that. There’s not much else to explain it other than incompetence (which I suspect is the actual reason).
I’m really going to miss Firefox
While I think that this isn’t on target, I believe it to be mis-executed rather than misguided: I think they were trying to support their AI Coding Policy by removing any notion that Claude was responsible for the work (therefore leaving the human responsible). What it does in practice of course is just hide AI-generated code. Since the
commitsetting can be anything you want, I believe a disclaimer that the commit was assisted by Claude but that the committer is considered the author of the code would be a better choice (and I said so on the thread). I hope they improve their choice.I have used firefox since it was netscape, so it was a bit sad when I switched to waterfox after they made the bullshit AI announcement. I’m hoping something better comes along but I have little faith it will happen.
Is there any browser engine left? Servo maybe?
If the engine starts getting crappy because of these LLMs, I think the internet enshittified to the maximum.
I stopped using Firefox because it was slowly becoming a bug filled mess. It’s in the trash with chrome for me now
What do you use now?
Likely a Chromium fork made by two teenagers larping as security experts, or a guy trying to sell you NFTs in a very brave manner.
Was this linked to a specific report or something? I cannot reach it. Does someone have a backup?
ill no longer use firefox now… i think vivaldi is better
Please don’t recommend propriety software
Well i didnt know vivaldi wasnt foss… then ill give librewolf a shot, i have it installed too.
Librewolf is Firefox.
Yes, but its a fork without ai slop. It has better privacy functions too.
It is not a fork. It is a set of patches on top of Firefox Stable.









