Where I live there are spots in the parking lot to leave the shopping cart in order to minimize on foot traffic. It’s better to be safe than virtue signaling.
and yet the test still applies, because given that ease, people still do not return their carts. and so the judgement becomes more stark, where the act of good becomes so easy, the benefit of the doubt all but vanishes
Ha! Let me tell you an anecdote.
My apartment building is positioned around 7 to 10 minutes walking distance to IKEA, a huge department store and a few small grocery stores. People would be fine dragging a IKEA/department store/grocery store cart for 10 fucking minutes being loud and an ass. And of fucking course they wouldn’t bring them back.
Also, some of them would bring one INSIDE OF THEIR FUCKING APARTMENT and keep it on the balcony filling it with trash. In some cases, they would bring trash inside cart out to the trashcans (we have private that open only with our key) and leave cart with their trash at the trashcans.
On average, our apartments are expensive and most of our neighbors are wealthy enough to rent these apartments. Yet, we got swines all over our apartment block…
Edit: wanted to add that this is in a major city of an EU country.
People being shitheads is ubiquitous, eh? Very frustrating.
My first job at 15.5yo was the grocery store. I bagged and got carts for work when bagging could be plastic (newer), paper (common), or a combo of both (old people, usually). If you don’t return your cart, fuck you! Now I live a few blocks from the same grocery store and return that shit to the inside of the store, grabbing spares sometimes if they’re just sitting around in the way. It used to surprise me when someone didn’t return it, then the last couple decades happened and it makes more sense. There are just some people who want to be a part of society and others who want to benefit from it while not contributing to it.
Yeah, when I walk into the store, I grab them from the handicap spots. It’s the only place where I say “Okay, you get a pass,” when I see carts left, and so I bring em back to the store.
Is this one of these american things? I have never seen someone not returning the shopping cart.
Where I live they often end up dumped outside people’s houses. They use them like personal carts and pile them up at home on the street until the shops come past and collect them
Also Aus, seeing them clustered in a group of 2-4 off in a random parking bay isnt uncommon (although annoying) and seeing a single trolley a block from the shops in the grass of a park as soon as it became too hard to push any further is rare, but i do spot it from time to time.
I guess they don’t have to put a euro in?
In my neighborhood the grocery stores stopped requiring a coin to get them during COVID-19 lockdowns. They kept it that way, and people put the carts back in the parking lot (although most people walk to the shops).
Ugh… This clashes for me with what actually happens in the movie. You’re basically saying only a good fascist returns the shopping cart.
But we all know, only fascists won’t return their shopping cart. Monsters…
Haha, the authority figures in this movie are fascists. And that famously goes right over the heads of ding dongs.
I mean the director explicitly made it to “seduce” people to fascism so the ding dongs that fell for it stand for nothing and would be the idiots that would fall for fascism.
It’s a good litmus test.
I’m a horrible person but I always return the shopping trolley.
There is no such thing as a good person , we are both good and evil…given perspective.
The line between good and evil cuts through the heart of each of us.
Nah. “Don’t cause unnecessary harm”, job done, you’re a good person now.
There’s philosophy and then there’s the real application. There are tons of lines that, when crossed, we as a society consider evil. Rape, torture, murder etc. are usually considered “evil enough” for perpetrators to be permanently removed from society.
Instructions unclear, cardiac surgeons are the line between good and evil.
I said for years that every second date should be to a grocery store. The first date can be as fancy and choreographed as the couple wants, but the second date needs to be to the grocery store.
You can learn just about everything you need to learn about a person from watching them at a grocery store. From how they chose a parking spot, to how they talk to employees, to how they budget, to how they prepare a list, to how healthy they eat, to how they check out, to if they return the shopping cart.
lol, this is how my first roommate vetted me. I guess I passed the test.
Change your mind on a product. Do they put it back where it belongs or throw it on the nearest clearly wrong shelf?
Oh my god I would just leave right then
Or, is the person a shopper at all? Do they act like they’ve never been to a grocery store in their lives?
That’s useful information.
Or do they compulsively steal? And if so, did they remember what my favourite chocolate bar is?
Gen z is already struggling to date. They don’t need the added barrier of not ordering limos for their burrito and being judged for it.
It’s all about compatibility here. If the date thinks they need limo burritos then that’s important information.
Meanwhile I have no idea what a limo burrito is
Doordash, hyerbolically? Metaphorically? referring to the transport vehicles as limos
Are frozens a separate category here?
Just go shopping. We’ll discuss compatibility when we are done.
tbf, ime people working grocery stores like lost/cast off items like that (assuming it doesn’t spoil quick). the small game of “oh, where does this go” is much wanted change of pace to the mind numbing tedium that is working a grocery store
I’ve worked in retail and I disagree. Trying to keep everything in order but constantly having to deal with shoppers messing stuff is frustrating.
I feel like that would doom any chances I’d ever have of a relationship. I park really far away, visit the bathroom at least once for guerrilla art installations, and zig zig across the entire store as I remember what kinds of things I want. Both major exes hated this.
Gonna be honest, I’d find that pretty endearing!
It’s all about compatibility. This is in your favor. If you had taken your ex’es grocery shopping early on then they wouldn’t be your ex’es now.
Wow I would hate that too. I try to spend as little time in the grocery store as possible. I almost always have a list of exactly what I want and that’s it. It’s hard enough finding things that are on the list, never mind remembering new things to buy.
Most of the stuff in a grocery store is junk food. The good stuff is at the ends and around the back, with only a few good things in the aisles (staples like olive oil, spices, rice, pasta, canned tomatoes).
“From how they choose a parking spot”
You no idea how much you just outed yourself as an american and not at all part of the “fuck cars” community that’s so popular here on lemmy for objectively good reasons. It’s fucking sad that was the first thing you thought was relevant.
Just what an insanely out-of-touch thing to say lol.
People from the “fuck cars” community are plainly aware that America largely does not have walkable cities and understands cars being necessary in some of those places, while advocating for infrastructural changes which would render cars unnecessary.
“It’s fucking sad that was the first thing you thought was relevant” yeah, it sucks that we literally would have to walk miles through pathless landscape, crossing over busy highways on foot, to reach our destination. And since, naturally, it would be fucking insane to do that literally every day, we have to buy in bulk.
Idk, sounds like you’re just kinda privileged.
Pretty sure they’re just going in order of operations? The first thing you do if you drove to the grocery store is park, that’s why they said it first. Weird ass little comment you’ve made here though lmao
The supermarket is my 3rd space
Especially if they’re Greek and you go to university together?
I don’t think I’ve talked to an employee in a grocery store in years. They’re all self check out or 95% self check out and there’s online directories to find the location of every product in the store
Date takes note.
I order online for pickup which takes up way more of the staffs time. Am I a civitizen?
I haven’t seen a shopping cart without a coin slot for a very long time. Communist Europe does not have moral lessons for citizens!
Sweden doesnt have them and people return them. The one problem is a lot of peoplr also kinda steal them but that would not be prevented by 1 euro.
My local supermarket in Germany doesn’t have coin slots in its carts. This was unusual for me, too, though; maybe an urban-rural-divide.
Aldi’s is the only chain that I specifically remember seeing those coin locked shopping carts/trolleys at here in the US. I know they are used other places, but it’s been years since I was in those parts of the US and don’t remember the other store chains that use them.
Almost every single store in SoCal uses shopping carts/trolleys with a “brake” on one of the wheels. If you pass outside of the IR perimeter of the store’s designated property (which frequently doesn’t include the outside parking spaces of their own parking lot, thereby making them a problem for all their customers,) one of the wheels locks so the cart/trolley is basically unuseable.
Many, but nowhere near most, of the carts/trolleys that don’t use such technology of coin based locks, or wheel brakes end up being used by the people experiencing homelessness to cart what few possessions they have left. Most of their stuff has already been stolen by the cops and shoved into garbage trucks, or in the case of their pets, they get taken to the shelter and put down.
This isn’t just true of California, but they at least try to not do this heartless crap to everyone, just the most vulnerable of us that can’t remember schedules. Other states don’t even give schedules. The cops and trash crews show up in the middle of the night, and your tent, all your possessions, probably all your important ID papers that you have, and your pets disappear. You now have to pay to get your pets back. All your property went into a garbage truck, was compacted, and went to the landfill. You don’t get that stuff back.
Cruelty is the point in the US, and always has been.
I wonder why that is. I mean that location-based brake must be way more expensive than those simple mechanical coin deposit slots.
If you don’t know, the carts are chained together and you can only remove one when you put in €1 or so, and you only get that back when you chain the cart back in - it’s not perfect, but good enough. Turns out people are very much willing to walk a few metres to get that back.My guess is that American stores don’t want to inconvenience their customers. The fear of losing even .01% because of introducing a system like that.
I can’t really reply to your much appreciated homelessness rant; probably because I have never seen it as bad as it seems to be in at least some places in the USA. My empathy though.
Then come to capitalist Europe. Because in Belgium we do have those without a coin slot.
People even propose to take them off other people after they are done, so those people don’t have to bring it back to cart return and can just leave instead. While there are plenty in the in stock. It is just a nice thing to do.
Stopped using those 10+ years ago here in Norway. I guess having to deal with cash was more of a hastle for the supermarkets than having to retrieve the occational cart.
If anything it’s a hassle for the customers, the supermarkets themselves don’t have to deal with the cash. It’s a deposit. Turns out losing NOK 10 is a very good incentive for people to behave.
Never understood people who couldn’t put the shopping carts in the cart return when they are done.
I hurt my knee a few years back, not going to return it if it’s too far away. There’s a good reason sometimes, it’s not a 100% judge of character.
this guy is right and the downvotes are insane. You don’t always know what’s going on. All they are asking is that maybe you don’t judge people so harshly when you don’t understand their situation. Jesus christ.
“No, I refuse! The world is perfect and you should have had a nurse or aide that you could totally afford help you out if it’s such a challenge for you! You were able to run the first half of the mile! Why can’t you finish it out?”
Ableist slime.
I’m sorry for your downvotes. I can think of several reasons not to return the cart, with different levels of validity.
I’m almost always alone, not in a hurry, and quite healthy. I will look around for additional carts to return with mine because I recognize that, in the future I might be the one without to privileges. In short: Got chu, fam.
I’m fully mobile now and do the same. I think the downvotes are funny, but thanks for the support.
If you can push it around the shop full of things, you can put it back while empty.
Or at least ask a passer-by?
If my knee was hurt so much I couldn’t walk right, I wouldn’t be driving a car either.
Not everyone has the luxury of not driving themselves despite whatever pain they have. There’s not always a passerby around, and besides, some people just fucking suck (looking at the driver who pulled over for my sibling when their face was caved in during an accident which resulted in like over 60 nose surgeries or something. Said driver literally said “I don’t have time for this, sorry” and left. Didn’t even call emergency services for them).
This is such hot garbage. Like I’m sorry but people stare and laugh when I bring my wheelchair to the store but then stand to reach a shelf. I’ve so often barely finished shopping out of exhaustion
Have to take a break after entering the store. Have to take a break halfway through. Have to take a break before check out. Have to take a break before parking lot. Take a longer break recouping in the car because groceries are fucking heavy with a spinal fracture.
Just because someone CAN do a given task doesn’t mean they can do it to the ability level of everyone else. Nor can they do it without longterm consequences, yes I can walk a few blocks, but I’ll be unable to move at all the next three days.
If someone says they can’t do something because of physical limitations, leave them the fuck alone about it and accept people struggle in unseen ways.
I sincerely hope you never dislocate your knee and still have to go shopping.
You know I actually have dislocated my knee twice. Still have never done that though.
To clarify, you were doing the shopping yourself? With the dislocated knee? Because that’s literally what they are saying happened. Not that they dislocated it once and then never returned the carts again. They say clearly below that they are fully mobile and return the carts now. So do you really want to stand by what you’re saying?
Maybe that wouldn’t happen if people didn’t leave shopping carts around to bump into and fall over.
Sure, Adolph, go ahead and tell yourself whatever lies you need to go to sleep at night.
We see you.
/s
imagine telling on yourself like this
not only lazy and selfish, but obviously dumb both for sharing this and for thinking the explanation makes any sense. also, for not just parking near the fucking corral on the first place
what a fuckin’ wanker
Yes, this is always an option available. There are always parking spots near the corrals, and the corrals are never in the middle of the parking lot, forcing a person with a disability to cover considerably more distance.
can walk around an entire store shopping with said cart, but can’t spend a fraction if that walking to return it
You were able to run the first 90% of the mile! Why’re you slowing down so much?!
can walk around an entire store shopping with said cart, but can’t spend a fraction of that walking to return it
You guys are some ablist mother fuckers.
For those that may have somehow missed it…
I expected this to be higher up
according to the meme, from now I see “returning the cart” as a fascist move
The world sucks man
Okay, gooder. We’ll get your son.
