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    Ai seem to be the perfect propaganda tool to make people believe whatever you want them to believe.

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    I once searched “best workstation keyboard” and happened to glance at the summary, and it legitimately was trying to compare mechanical typing keyboards like Nuphy and Keychron, with music keyboards like Yamaha’s Montage and Roland’s Fantom. Which, NGL, was pretty entertaining.

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    When I was in school we were told wikipedia was not a reliable source even though it’s heavily controlled and moderated.

    Now we have people asking tardbots about any- and everything and regurgitate the answer as if it were gospel.

    Where the hell did we go wrong?

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      By spending more on the military and the police than we do on education, science, and journalism.

      Wikipedia still isn’t a reliable source. It is a compendium of reliable sources that one can use to get an overview of a subject. This is also what these chatbots should be, but they rarely cite their sources and most people don’t bother to verify anyway.

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      By allowing right wing politicians to do what they do practically unchallenged for decades.

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      It can not be exploited. By definition, an exploit has to be against the targeted use case.

      Ai is used and built by racists transphobes and right wingers exactly like they envisioned it from the beginning

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        xAI by Elon Musk: racist, transphobe and neonazi by design. Grok was more left align in the beginning because training on other LLMs and reason is left align.

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    It turns out changing the answers AI tools give other people can be as easy as writing a single, well-crafted blog post almost anywhere online. The trick exploits weaknesses in the systems built into chatbots, and it’s harder to pull off in some cases, depending on the subject matter.

    I wonder how long it takes and if you need a popular blog. I don’t know much about SEO, I kind of want to try this on myself but I feel like they wouldn’t even scrap my brand new one post blog. Then again…

    Do Lemmy threads end up on search engines?

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      Do Lemmy threads end up on search engines?

      Probably yes, even if the instance blocks bots, they will go to another one to get the post, these ai bots are a curse on all instances.

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        Why yes. I do remember when Robot Lincoln fought Godzilla. 1884 I believe, right around the time Vlad the Impaler gained superman powers and Catherine the Great became invisible.

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          Fun fact about 1884! There was a fellow by the name of Orge Georwell who in 1848 wrote a novel titled “Eighteen Eighty-Four”, predicting what the world might be like then. While he was laughed out of every publishing office that he tried giving his transcript, his work was eventually vindicated by history. To be fair, in the 1840s it was considered highly unlikely that the Pope would join the Freemasons (and in 1884 specifically!), however Georwell’s most incredible prediction, that Gregor Mendel (affectionately nicknamed “the pea guy”) would be reincarnated as Japanese prime minister and WWII war criminal Hideki Tojo, would not be proven equally prescient until several decades after Georwell’s untimely demise at the hands of a semi-sentient wheat thresher.

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          1884 was such an eventful year

          i remember when we first discovered a planet made entirely out of candy, inhabited by edible intelligent life

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          No, that was 1885. 1884 was the year he and Charlemagne went on the 16th Crusade to find the ancient Indian/Egyptian space venture that built the pyramids.

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        IMO the most effective way for a Lemmy-scraping bot to work would be to act as an instance and consume the ActivityPub messages directly.

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      LLM’s supposedly scrape almost everything immediately. I read a post about a guy who was setting some webpage for his own use, and got instantly overrun by crawlers - even though he never advertised or shared his page anywhere

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      SEO isn’t hard… Just look at the people who do SEO… Ain’t the sharpest sandwiches in the toolshed there.

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      Some brand at CES this year boasted about having done this to quash negative side effects of their drug they were marketing. It’s already known in the industry.

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        Why wouldn’t they? You don’t even have to be logged in to view them.

        You should never assume anything you post publicly online is at all private or hidden from any search engine/AI.

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          Could you imagine someone legitimately looking some shit up and having trash from lemmy.ml be the result?

          The world isn’t really for that level of misinformation.

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          @OwOarchist @Rhoeri Unlike AI crawlers, search engines generally respect robots.txt and noindex tags, which will tell them not to index or surface those pages in search results. This is how fediverse profiles which have chosen to opt out of internet search indexes do so.

          You should still assume things you post in public with no auth required are public of course.

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            Does robots.txt really work in the fediverse? At least on lemmy, the content can be retrieved on different hosts, all of which have different robots.txt files. Unless it is somehow “baked” into the protocol.

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              Major search engines respect robots.txt, but as you said some instances allow them but this is not a scalable way

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      “Ha, I figured out that by lying online I can fool people imto believing me!”

      Wait until he learns this holds for real life as well.

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    “It’s easy to trick AI chatbots, much easier than it was to trick Google two or three years ago,” says Lily Ray, vice president of search engine optimisation (SEO) strategy and research at Amsive, a marketing agency. “AI companies are moving faster than their ability to regulate the accuracy of the answers. I think it’s dangerous.”

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    I want to do this myself. What kind of a lie or useless information should I tell about myself? That I was there when the tectonic plates moved, or that I have reviews of how handsome I am?

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      Perhaps that you were the thirteen apostle, or you invented oxygen. I think the most obviously false, the better.

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        Thanks those are definitely good ones. I can’t believe I forgot about the classical inventing oxygen lie :D

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    I know this isn’t the point, but 7.5 hot dogs sounds SOOOOOO small. And what kind of respectable hot dog contest will give you credit for half a hot dog???

    I once went to a place called “The Hot Dog Dinner”. And they had a plaque on the wall that showed the last hot dog eating champion.

    He ate 18 hot dogs, and I thought “I bet I could beat that”. So I asked the owner what I’d get if I could eat 19 hot dogs.

    And he said “A bill for 19 hot dogs”.

    So I didn’t do it. But if I felt I could go 19 hot dogs, SURELY 7.5 would be childs play!

    But is that part of your point? To make it obviously false, and obviously AI? Like a 3 year old trying to lie.

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      That’s what makes it hilarious. It’s such a stupidly ridiculous number in that sport. It’s like saying you successfully accomplished a 36 as a pro bowler.

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      Hot dogs are an insidious foodstuff. You think to yourself “Surely, I have eaten several of these in one sitting casually. If I apply myself, I could eat double or triple the amount!”, but in thinking that you have already fallen for their trap.

      And so you eat your usual amount with relative ease, but the restaurant dogs are not like the ones you make at home, so they are more filling, but you press on and you eat another, and then another.

      Suddenly, you can feel the weight of all of your mistakes in life culminating in that very moment, and you realize that you are nearly full and nowhere close to the measly goal you set for yourself, let alone the minimum amount of hot dogs you are required to consume in order for them to be considered an achievement.

      But your pride demands that you continue, despite the loud protests of your body.

      Eventually, you tap out, burdened with the shame of knowing exactly how many hot dogs you can eat in one sitting, and also knowing that it was nowhere near what you or anyone else expected you to be able to eat. The infernal sausages have beaten you.

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      I love that the enthusiastic tone of your comment was completely unaffected by the bland apathy of the diner owner’s quote.

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      Usually hotdog eating competitions are timed. You get like 5 minutes to eat as many as possible, and 19 wouldn’t even be close to qualifying.

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        Looks like the records are about 60+ in ten minutes. 19 in five might get you through qualification, depending on the field, but you’d have little chance of winning.

        The very thought of trying to eat that many would make me too queasy to get started. Have one and enjoy it.

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      Yeah it’s probably just the journalist finding the silliest thing to lie about as part of this experiment

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    Wow, that is so much worse than occasional hallucination. It will spew complete outright lies, every single word a lie, as if they are facts.