The only way this stops is if people give up their RING cameras.
I’ll put on a ski mask and take down every single one I encounter. Ring owners everywhere hate this one simple trick.
I bought a house Dec '23, the previous owner was a guy in his late 80s in poor health, so his kids had setup a full ring system to help keep an eye on him. The hour after I closed on it, I ripped all that shit out
We need open source, non subscription camera/app tech. For safety and for keeping an eye on Pops when he ages out.
we used a babycam. the one we used, you can talk through but the audio quality is shit.
Just ordered a set of reolink cameras to replace all our ring stuff.
Once they’re set up you can probably tell your router not to let them access the internet at all. This is assuming that you’re recording locally.
It is never a good idea to trust corporations with anything if it can be avoided. Almost by definition corporations put profit above all else, and many are perfectly willing to engage in blatantly illegal actions if it’s profitable.
Amazon being trusted with video footage from inside and outside of people’s homes was bound to lead to a surveillance nightmare at some point.
Won’t somebody please think of the
childrendogsI thought they ment furries
Same. Had to read that headline twice just to be sure.
Lemmy has damaged us
Them too
They don’t want to remind us of the children right now with the epstein stuff still washing up.
The message that needs to be hammered in harder than anything is that times when these are used to solve crimes and find missing innocent people are the EXCEPTION and not the rule. nor are they are the purpose.
Most criminals are just as stupid today as they were 50 or 100 years ago, and despite massive advances in a shitload of surveillance and forensics, not to mention MASSIVE increases in police funding, the rates of unresolved crime have only increased. Crime rates have dropped since their peak in the early 90s, but that is more than likely due to environmental factors and an ageing population more than anything else (crime is generally a thing young people do, by the time they hit middle age they’ve either given it up or gotten so good at it that they know how to evade the system). In Canada for example, despite massive increases in car telemetry and tracking and all that shit, the overwhelming majority of car thefts are unsolved. This is often when the car theft itself is caught on camera and probably the car driving away is also captured by multiple cameras. Unless the car is then used in a homicide, the police rarely care to investigate that much.
The point of all of these is to document any form of organisation, protest, or activism. If some group of people want to unionize or protest an unpopular law being proposed, planning that isn’t like planning a burglary. It necessitates communication and organization, and you need transportation. Most protestors can leave their phones behind at home (with me I’d turn it off and put it in a Faraday bag). Also the whole ‘nothing to hide, nothing to fear’ is utter shit. A single heated argument, sour facial expressions at hearing certain news reports (if you wanted to see me be visibly pissed off, look at me when I was seeing the horrific reports of how Palestinians were (are still) being killed). They can use this to develop a profile of what kind of person you are. Are you a super progressive person and also have skills useful in tech? Good luck getting that job now, because no matter how or where you apply, the AI will work to exclude your application.
I know some people who are VERY vocal about their views and also have a lot of highly in-demand skills but cannot find any work despite applying relentlessly. Their views also got them fired from their work since the companies they work for don’t like certain… leftist views. Those people are the squeakiest clean people in terms of the law, but that doesn’t mean the powers above like them.
yea if your outspoken, it make sense they wont hire someone. employers will check your social media to see if you “boisterous”, better to not go on social media and say you support this and this person. likewise it happens to right wingers too, thats why they arnt hirable in most places. support activism, politics in “safe spaces” and not put yourself on your social media account about what you are protesting about. i asusme thats why they arnt getting hired, check your social, see you dont like this or that.
they want to see your “cv or resume” not your politics. this doesnt need to apply to politics, being elitist is another reason not to hire someone too.
of course another issue, if you entering into an industry that is tradionally opposite of your political views, its probably not a good idea to express it.
Most criminals are just as stupid today as they were 50 or 100 years ago
Raiding boxcars (i.e. around LA) and porch piracy are now real, so they rather do the easiest ways of making mint instead of home invasion.
Crime rates have dropped since their peak in the early 90s
At least partly due to the ban on lead additives in gasoline.
Wait, which furries
The friends.
Any.
Depends on the identifiability of their fursuit surely
What a fucking dystopia we live in
Better start picking up some high powered laser pointers.
Would this work on municipal police cameras, asking for a friend.
it works on flock cameras. I’m willing to bet the standard red laser pointer, they have a filter for it, but greens ha yeah right.
I was curious so poked around a little online and found this very old albeit quite informative post: http://www.naimark.net/projects/zap/howto.html
It will work until they start calling it TERRORISM!!1!11
Sounds like free advertising.
That Melania documentary was financed by Besos. Reportedly $70M development cost can easily include some slush fund elements to, if not directly to Trump family, to friends of MAGA. That Ring revenue can include federal contracts for ICE to shoot more people or AWS paid to run Skynet, is predictable.
I also despise everything this would mean in terms of state surveillance, but if you could isolate this capability, it 100% would help recover lost dogs. Speaking from experience. We lost our dog for 6 days and didn’t have any idea where he was until 3 days passed. The most effective way to recover lost dogs is by knowing their current location and setting out live traps with food for them to find at night. Scared dogs don’t recognize their owners by sound so driving around calling for them wouldn’t help.
So if it this technology could work solely as a lost pet sighting tool and not a dystopian state surveillance tool, it would be immensely helpful.
Slap an air tag on their collar if you’re that concerned. I’d rather have less surveillance.
Yeah, I would too. The argument wasn’t that it’s a net good. The argument is that if it were to work as they claim and only identify animals matching the description of lost pets using a mesh network, then that helps pets and pet owners. That’s objectively true.
And air tags rely on Bluetooth signaling. Lost pets often avoid people so they don’t work very well in most cases. The only options that do work are subscription based(gross) GPS trackers that use cell towers and GPS signals to determine their location. Which we have now, but thanks.
Air tags use UWB radio, not Bluetooth.
You have a subscription based collar tracker for your dog?
That’s the only way to do it properly. There’s no other way to get the GPS location without using cell towers to transmit and cell phone companies refuse to offer that service for free.
Put a collar with a tag with your phone number on it. You will get a call if they run off. Unless, well you will probably get a call.
If the dog is able to be corralled sure, but most dogs when they’re loose actively avoid interaction.
It really depends on the type of dog and it’s personality. I’ve returned several over the years, including one old black lab sitting on a sort of highway, a super busy 4 lane road at maybe 45 mph. And I had mine returned from there too almost immediately when she ran off.
But hound dogs, or other hunting breeds are probably less likely to allow a person to approach.
Not like every Tesla hasn’t been doing this already…
Not sure what would prevent the average person from buying Ring cameras unless it became commonplace for Ring cameras to be vandalized while other cameras were left alone.
Much darker than I originally thought.
Anyone know how this affects the U.K.?
