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Well, when you get a dog he’s got my vote
How do you know the dog isn’t the next Blondi?
I figure the dog will be of the easy going centrist type so to get the republicans vote it will have to be a good boi.
Blondi did nothing wrong.
No more celebrities.
In fairness, Arnold Schwarzenegger already has political experience as governor of California. He’d be the most qualified celebrity for the Whitehouse if he was a naturally born citizen.
Except that was the same thing that gave us Reagan. He was an actor. Then governor of California. Then president. We are still paying for all his bullshit.
The most qualified doesn’t mean the best qualified, though.
Can’t disagree with that!
Natural born is a common misconception. Naturalized is sufficient - he can be president if he wants. 14th amendment clarifies this point.
Could you quote the part where it says they can become president?
All I can find is that they become citizens:All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the US Constitution explicitly states:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President
As I understand, this is based on settled case law, Schneider vs Rusk, where it was decided that preventing natural born citizens from holding office such as president violates due process. As you quoted above, “All citizens naturalized…are citizens”.
This is the lynchpin to progressive candidate Cenk Uygur’s bid for presidency in 2024. He expects this case law to be challenged and decided in the Supreme Court, and anticipates a victory there for himself and the 25million-some other naturalized citizens who wish to enjoy the due process they’ve earned.
Personally, I think he’s right that Biden is a fool for ignoring the current 10-15 point deficit in the polls vs trump. Biden needs to get out of the way for literally any other dem to come in and sweep the election, and hopefully this will be how it happens!
TY, that’s really interesting.
So, of I understand correctly, it’s not exactly codified law.
Even if the supreme court upholds that ruling, they could overturn it in the future?Yeah that pretty much sums it up. Court cases rule and set precedent based on interpretation of existing laws…in this case how the 14th amendment applies/changes section 1.5 from Article II about who can hold office as president.
Supreme Court is usually expected to uphold this type of precedent by default, but as the highest court in the land, they can overturn it if/when Cenk’s case makes it to them.
If they do uphold it, a later supreme court could reinterpret the existing law and overturn this ruling as a result. This was the case with Roe. Congress could codify this interpretation into law by amending the constitution with something even more clear than the 14th amendment, like “naturalized citizens can hold office of presidency.”
To me the 14th seems pretty clear in its intent already, and I think the prior ruling clearly should stand…you’d have to have some wildly politically active judges to misinterpret something like that. Oh wait…!😅 so we shall see.
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or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution
Didn’t double check but I think he wasn’t a citizen when the constitution was shipped.
So going by the literal wording alone, he would not qualify.
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Someone else already commented that a court found that it would apply to naturalized citizens, so that is sufficient for me.
However, the text itself says “at the time OF THE ADOPTION of this Constitution”, i.e. the specific point in time when it was adopted.
Also, no more septuagenarians.
over 75 years old
white male
independently wealthy
tough guy image
media-famous for something that has nothing to do with politics
not allowed to run according to the ConstitutionWell, he checks all current boxes for a Republican candidate
He is probably the only republican I could see myself supporting
While I like Arny a lot more than anyone else I have seen looking for the position please, no more celebrity politicians.
I mean he can’t run anyways.
As of now, yes. However, there are a lot of people in the US who would like to change the stipulation that naturalized citizens can not be president. So a push for this could pass, especially for someone like Schwarzenegger who is a republican and the right kind of immigrant.
That would require a constitutional amendment, and if you think the country has any chance of passing any of those with polarization as high as it is, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
At this moment? No. However things were not always like this and won’t always be like this. If someone like Schwarzenegger was around in the 70s or 80s I could definitely see it, as the idea was popular then as well.
I agree that we don’t need more celebrities, but he has more government experience than the last guy. Not an endorsement, just showing he cleared the incredibly low bar.
I’ve talked to a person IRL who didnt understand that Arnold is a US citizen, was the governor of California, but was born in Austria and cannot be president.
To some people, they also think foreigners can’t be governors and were convinced one of his parents were American because he “looks American”
It’s not necessarily related to this post, but a personal anecdote about my experiences with stupidity
because he “looks American”
That’s the issue Obama had in the Republican’s eyes. He looks African.
/s
Meh. I like him better as a commentator. His run managing California wasn’t that great. That said, I think he’s a damn sight better than anything the conservatives have in line for president.
Too bad you can’t run
Yes he can but I don’t think he’s very fast
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Demolition Man.
Was that one one where he spent the whole movie going Commando?
He was naked in the beginning when they put his character in cryogenic stasis for all the civilians that Wesley Snipes character killed.
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If you hear Arnold on various podcasts, his ideas in general are pretty meathead.
He talked about solving the lack of a House speaker by “Locking everyone in a room with no bathroom until they have a solution.”
His solution for his child forgetting to turn off a light was to “Throw the mattress out of the window into the pool.”
This is a dude who has more experience banging his fists demanding things than actually leading. Where I think he’ll do some progressive things, just like Reagan, he’ll do some thing that sounds good on paper but not at all researched and then fuck over the country for decades after their death.
He talked about solving the lack of a House speaker by “Locking everyone in a room with no bathroom until they have a solution.”
The solution the came up with? Piss.
Yeah, in the recent podcast with Rob Lowe there was a lot of “industry good, government bad” with an extra helping of “both sides are the same”. He was also praising Reagan several times. Arnie is a conservative boomer through and through.
Why unlock the door when they reach a solution? Just leave them in there.
He talked about solving the lack of a House speaker by “Locking everyone in a room with no bathroom until they have a solution.”
People realize Demolition Man was a dystopia, right?
That was Stallone, Arnold was Running Man
There’s a line in Demolition Man where they talk about the fact that Arnold becomes president after a change in laws that allows him to run. That’s what GP is referring to.
IIRC they just refer to “Arnold Schwarzenegger Presidential Library”
Why did they use a 30 year old photo?
From his time campaigning to be governor?
Old but relevant?
Well, he’s old enough now…
He can’t be anyways. He wasn’t born in the U.S.
They got around it in Demolition Man.
Laugh all you want, but honestly? I believe him. He would be leagues better than most politicians we have.
Downside: He can’t.
And that’s a good thing, there’s only one other immigrant I can think of that has a reasonable shot at winning:
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Well he wouldn’t be the worst
That bar can’t get much lower
To quote Patrick Star - “nonsense”
I want Arnold Schwarzenegger to become a host of a cooking show featuring pastries
In a movie, yes.
