Wild to see this fervor after a white woman was killed, this is like the fourth or fifth time ICE has murdered someone in a year but now our “worst fears have been realized.” They certainly weren’t an anti-civilian paramilitary when they were fucking raiding American ghettos with helicopters and kidnapping people in unmarked vans off the streets. We don’t care about that, obviously, but now they’ve crossed a line!
This country fucking sucks.
If that’s what it takes then I’ll take it.
His policies have killed millions. Stories of white women being brutalized have always pulled at Americans heart strings. We better learn to use it to our advantage, for the sake of everyone.
We better learn to use it to our advantage
While you’re still talking about learning, they’ve already mastered it. Your brutalized white woman is a terrorist in their narrative and people are already buying that.
Stories of white women being brutalized have always pulled at Americans heart strings.
If decades of school kids getting shot in their schools doesn’t motivate Americans to take action, I’m not hopeful that this will either.
I really want my cynicism to be proven wrong, but after watching the Americans for over 50 years, I don’t expect it will be.
this is like the fourth or fifth time ICE has murdered See, I didn’t even know about this and I like to think I follow US news quite closely. I must have missed it or my brain shorted out because of the constant flood of awful news coming out of that country.
More that 30 people have died in concentration camps as well.
Camel, straw, back. If this becomes the tipping point so be it
It won’t be, but even if it were; would you really want to fight side by side with someone whose only motivator is fear?
Sounds like the kinda person who would immediately sell you out to the fascists if they were promised a deal that would protect themselves.
uh yes. why would I care what their motives are if theyre fighting nazis.
a call to inaction because people aren’t “pure of heart” is dumb.
I imagine you would care quite a bit when the knife is sticking out of your back.
This country fucking sucks.
Hear fucking hear.
sorry can you link the others. because I don’t think there’s 13 camera angles for the other ones
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I’m not sure there’s actually evidence that the mother of a six year old whose father died two years ago is in fact queer.
Her wife might dispute that.
It’s probably due to the reports talking about either her “partner” or her “wife”.
Not erasing part of someone’s identity is not confining them to extra boxes.
Also, queer encompasses bisexual and pansexual, so the fact that she had a child and was married to a man is irrelevant.
Yup. Friend of mine finally cut loose her deadweight husband after 2 kids. She started dating an amazing woman and I’ve never seen her more happy. Luckily she also got custody, and her kids are awesome human beings.
The best men are just average women.
Having kids does not mean you’re not queer.
There are straight and bi queer people.
This is exactly like hitlers SA. The Gestapo is coming if we let it
You already let it. It’s already here.
Obama used the fuck out of ICE too. Pepperiidge Farms remembers.
They‘re the brownshirts given a badge.
Hard to have a Night of the Long Knives without them and the administration does enjoy that playbook.
ICE and the Heritage Foundation are both government sanctioned domestic terrorist organizations.
They always have been. No need for them to exist, period. I prefer open borders over THIS.
eyup. I understood having to control a border but if the payment to do it is this. Then let it go be whatever it will be.
I never had to have a passport to visit Canada growing up. Used to cross the Rio Grande with tour groups in Big bend National Park, no border patrol anywhere.
The whole DHS has been that since its inception.
? Where is it coming from that she was queer and what has that to do with anything?
It doesn’t matter if she is queer or not, it’s completely irrelevant.
If she had been an African American man, or an Asian Transgender woman, it would, should, not have mastered at all, it is just as tragic and it’s still murder
Having said that, so yeah, you have a paramilitary organization murdering people in the US. Again, the wording is weird, “anti civilian” is a really weird synonym for murderers, but putting that aside… What are you going to do about it?
Are you kidding? If an African American person gets murdered by cops on video, we get nationwide protests and a months-long focus on racial reckoning.
But a white queer person gets murdered by cops on video, and suddenly her queerness doesn’t matter and is irrelevant? Murder is murder?
In other words, you’re saying “all lives matter” as opposed to “queer lives matter”?
In that case, I think it’s valid to ask if her being queer influenced the
sturmabteilungICE officer’s decision to kill her. There is absolutely discrimination and increased violence from authorities against queer people due to them being queer, but I’m not sure if this is a matter of using disproportionate force against her due to her sexual orientation or if it’s just a matter of ICE being violent in general.Sure, but that’s not what’s being asked. People are asking why it’s mentioned that she’s queer at all, and the answer simply is that she’s queer. It’s concerning that that fact seems to be not good enough for some people.
That’s the equivalent of asking whether George Floyd being black influenced the cops’ decision to kill him, or if it’s just a matter of cops being violent in general.
That wouldn’t be taken very well, would it?
Did the murdering officer know that the woman was queer? George Floyd’s skin color was rather obvious to anyone close enough.
Does she need to wear a fucking pink triangle on her sleeve for you people to stop trying to erase her identity?
you people
What people are you talking about?
erase her identity
In what way? And how does that at all relate to this?
People like you, everyone coming here to complain in the comments that the headline described her as queer.
What you’re doing is advocating for erasure. Don’t play dumb.
Probably the multiple reports describing her wife’s reaction to the shooting?
I don’t understand why people are getting upset over this particular detail, but it’s concerning.
Because it’s not their favored pet cause.
Some people get upset when they hear that white people can be vulnerable minorities too. They want a monopoly on being oppressed, so queerness isn’t a valid identity to them.
ice has always been anti-immigration paramilitary force for both parties, they hire the exact people that usually hate immigrants in general, otherwise no normal citizens are going to do it, it just that DRUMPF lowered the bar so much that anyone can join.
“Queer woman?”
First I’ve heard that, where did that come from? I’ve also heard “devout Christian,” but that seems to come and go. Probably not a lot of “queer devout Christians” out there.
I’d like to know who she actually was. Her second husband died, so she doesn’t seem to be gay, but what to do I know?
All this bullshit is irrelevant. They shot one of us. In cold blood. Just for being there when they were carrying out their illegal operations. We are all next.
No, we have to humanize her, that’s what makes the normally apathetic wake up. They want to define her as a monster, and dehumanize her, so they can rationalize and excuse murdering her.
We have to remind everybody, especially MAGAs, that she was exactly like them, a mom of 3, a Christian, a widow, etc. When people see that she isn’t the monster they claim, they start to realize who the real monsters are.
We have seen over and over that Conservatives will shift their opinion when it hits their own life. Dick Cheney, as conservative as any Fascist Nazi, was extremely gay-friendly because he had a gay daughter whom he loved. He could bomb the shit out of foreign brown people because they aren’t real to hom, but he supported gay rights, because gay people were real to him.
When we get MAGAs to see others as fellow humans, it makes a difference to many. Not all, many MAGAs are unsalvageable psychopaths, but some will respond to this. We have to keep whittling away at their approval ratings, and humanizing their victims is an enormous help.
They want to define her as a monster, and dehumanize her, so they can rationalize and excuse murdering her.
Right… Unfortunately that’s why they’re calling her queer 😬
I get what you’re saying, but that’s exactly the opposite of what the media is doing. They are telling the public she wasn’t like them. That she wasn’t Christian, she was a liberal rioter with three children by two men and her lesbian lover beside her in the car when she was out maliciously running over law enforcement in her SUV. Bootlicking Maga chuds with hot jelly in their skulls don’t need much to know a person was evil and deserved to be put down, and so for headlines like this the writers know exactly what they’re doing; boiling this woman’s entire life into one word that shows she’s Not Like Us^TM
So… let me make sure I’m understanding you correctly…
You’re saying the media outlet called “lgbtq nation” described this woman as queer in order to dehumanize her and show people she isn’t like them?
Kinda strange… Who do you think reads lgbtq nation?
Is that supposed to be a clever comeback?
Do you live your life so defensively that you’re offended by my own self depreciation?
Nuance on the word media, not specific to the publication posted here. The media is trying to dehumanize her by calling her queer because to the average MAGA queers are pedophiles wanting to destroy the nation with socialism
So is that why the lgbtq nation called her queer? Just curious.
Cause it seems like right-wing outlets aren’t focusing on her queerness. They’re just calling her a terrorist. Or a “liberal communist,” whatever that is (do they not realize communists hate liberals as much as magas do?)
No, Fox News definitely called her a pro-noun using lesbian.
they can’t differ between liberal and communists that’s the point they are dumb as fuck
And of course the news and memorials about the queer woman one of their ilk murdered shouldn’t mention the fact she was queer, because that might make the MAGAs celebrate her death more than they did from the second they heard about it.
If you think this is better than the 90s era ‘don’t mention someone on our side is queer because it’ll make us look bad’ attitude, you are wrong.
jesus what in the pancakes waffles is this? You assumed a lot of things in that last line (and no I don’t think that)
I never said they should not use that word I just explained how the media (most of it on US is MAGA related) will use her queerness as a weapon
Let’s put a dead queer woman back in the closet, because people that already hate her might still hate her. Oh boy, I can feel the acceptance, it’s totally different from all the homophobia I grew up with!
Not wanting someone reduced down to just their sexuality is not shoving them back in the closet and I don’t appreciate the insinuation that I’m prejudiced for calling it out.
You yourself are advocating for her sexuality not being mentioned at all! If you were trying to advocate for something else here, it absolutely doesn’t come across.
Queer people are constantly erased in death, by prejudiced family and media. Reconsider supporting or saying anything resembling that, such as by going ‘oh no why did the headline of a queer news site have to mention she was queer??’
I wasn’t advocating anything, I was explaining why the news media plastering her sexuality in every headline is an attempt to dehumanize her and send a message to those both inside and outside the mentioned minority. I apologize if it came across to you as queer erasure, that was definitely not what I was going for, but I do understand now how that’s how it could come across, so thank you for that.
Valid. Good post.
Probably not a lot of “queer devout Christians” out there.
Many, many more than you’d think. Plenty of denominations have no problem with queer people. Even the Catholic church has walked back a lot of their anti-queer messaging in the last decade.
Ok. So do something about it then. Enough empty threats.
She has to fight two parties to accomplish anything.
The “do something about it” is not only for AOC, but for all sane Americans.
The longer this rot is allowed to spread and act freely in your country, the harder it will be to get rid of.
The rot has decades of inertia behind it and it benefits the donors to both major parties.
We need a general strike, but too many people are already right at the edge of destitution and are scared of being the one person who walks out and loses everything and has to face fascism while homeless. And the unhoused are pretty high up on the “then they came for” list, with even democrats like newsom working against them.
man, if on she had seen this coming and said something about how the dnc was fucking americans out of a fair election. but it was all soooo unpredictable… /s
After?
bacame quiet some time ago now.
Do better AOC, the fact that this was a woman, mother or gay is irrelevant.
A US citizen was murdered by Federal agents. This could have been anyone in MAGA.
