cross-posted from: https://ibbit.at/post/81808

…the agents had demanded to ride along in the ambulance en route to the hospital. The driver replied that without arrest paperwork, they were not permitted to ride along. Agents continued to insist that the vehicle would not be allowed to leave until an officer was permitted to accompany them.

“I repeated again,” the driver said in their report, “that no officer is permitted to ride in the ambulance and that they can meet us at the hospital and that we needed to be let out of the facility. Officers then began walking away from me whenever I spoke. At that point, a group of 5-8 civilian-dressed men walked into the garage and just stared at me. No identification on any of them. I walked back to the ambulance and got into the driver’s seat. I flipped the emergency lights on and put the car into drive. I inched forward slowly out of the garage.”

A man described as being in civilian clothes and a neck-wrap then stepped in front of the vehicle and ordered the ambulance not to leave, according to the report. As more agents amassed about 15 feet in front of the vehicle, the driver assumed they were preparing to escort the ambulance off the property and continued to slowly inch the vehicle forward. But agents continued to obstruct the ambulance’s path. As of 9:39, a dispatch report said there were “50-60 fed agents completely blocking the road.”

At this point, the crew member in the passenger’s seat exited the vehicle to attempt to reason with the officers. After putting the vehicle into park, the driver began to exit as well. They said that as they opened the side door, “I looked up and suddenly the entire group of officers… were crowded around the open car door, some of them leaning forward towards me, inches from my face.”

The driver recalls that an agent “pointed his finger at me in a threatening manner and began viciously yelling in my face, stating, ‘DON’T YOU EVER DO THAT AGAIN, I WILL SHOOT YOU, I WILL ARREST YOU RIGHT NOW.”

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    This shit is just a powder keg waiting to go off. All it’s going to take is one person to decide they’ve had enough of this in a situation like this and just floor it and run those assholes over and the whole country is going to explode. It’s just a matter of time.

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        Yeah, I’m convinced they are actively trying to get some ICE killed so they can take the kid gloves off and go full occupying force.

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          This is 100% the plan. It’s a ‘when’ at this point, not an ‘if’, despite the extraordinary restraint displayed when dealing with these fuckwits to date.

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          Just saw them gas the chicago police for at least the second time while they protected ices retreat from protestors. then trump. gotta bring troops in because the chicago police aren’t protecting ice. and yeah the gas was thrown as they ran away. that is how they deployed it.

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            Look… okay, gassing the cops is fucking hilarious. But they didn’t do it intentionally and were aiming at the protesters so I don’t think they should be commended for that.

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              I think they are. They did that bait vehicle to get the protestors in the street in broadview. They want someone to get injured or killed and sure its acceptable to the administration if its ice but even better if they get someone local. I mean hes already talking about the need to “defend” the ice agressors but his argument will finally have some tenous substance if they can atually point to an injury or better yet a death.

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          If it’s not one thing it’ll be another. Trump and his handlers are not going to let go of the reins now that they have them.

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        I hope people at the No King’s Protest will all understand escalation is their goal, of course there’s a chance Yam Tits will make a royal decree that they’re all to be arrested to spark the powder keg. Which will happen cause Wormtongue, I mean Miller, says so cause evidently everything pro democracy is an insurrection in the US now.

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      Meanwhile it is a regular occurrence for right-wing dipshits to run their trucks through crowds of protestors and get away with little to no consequences. They end up being classified as “road-rage” incidents rather than the politically motivated acts of terrorism that they are.

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        Yep, meanwhile on Lemmy we have people who don’t seem to understand what’s going on posting shit like “You all need to fight back! I thought you had guns to protect against situations like this!” The restraint people are showing by not doing that is frankly unbelievable.

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          Portland is the wrong place if they want violence. Just like the BLM protests, portlandians will mostly stand around and get shot at while dressed in ridiculous ways. Its probably the stupidest location to try and do a fascism.

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        Well, whoever claps a ice agent at a protest will be condemning thousands maybe millions to die. And it will cause a ripple effect that could lead to more violence all over the world.

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          Honestly, it might be worth it. I don’t want to live my life in a MAGAT America. Of course, the price is that I have to be willing to give up my life to secure an America worth living in.

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            I agree. But then kind of person willing to do it is rare. Not only are you going to die you will die long before you get to see the world you wanted

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              Yeah, I kinda expect to bite the dust during a civil war. Still better odds than letting RFK send me to a concentration camp, since I am autistic and less than human in the Regime’s eyes.

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      they fully expect someone to shoot or kill and ICE degenerate, so trump can use more aggressive moves. also its a nice continious distraction from the epstein files. All this sudden amount of ice activity happened when they are on the verge of releasing those files.

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    The national shitbag registry needs to be kept by whatever unions manage EMTs . These officers need to identify themselves just so their names are placed on the list and their captain can begin negotiating so that their families and home EVER get protection from fire, ambulance or cops again.

    Until then, NO identified ICE member or their family gets support. Identify yourselves to distinguish yourselves or all face the same penalty. This is a targeted labour strike.

    (Similarly, anyone impeding a real emergency vehicles gets on the list until a formal written apology replaces it in the file)

    You do not impede real emergency vehicles just because you need to beat up and kidnap brown people.

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      EMTs and Medics typically dont have unions unless the fire dept runs EMS, and they typically treat EMS as a cash cow rather than actually representing them.

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      I do like the idea of a National Shitbag Registry, so when these people move to a new neighborhood they have to go door to door warning the neighbors that they are a registered shitbag.

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    If you are interfering with someone getting medical assistance, you are the bad guy. Outside of situations where someone is rejecting medical assistance for themselves, I can’t think of any exceptions to this.

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    They act just like the Gestapo during naziregime: use exessive force, followvtheir hunches and will not be held accountable

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    As I mentioned on Bluesky: This is not just evil, but also dumb. Medics will not treat ICE personnel if they are endangered by just doing their job. The point of the social contract is that everyone works together to ensure that all people get to live a decent life. Abusing the doctors is a good way to be removed from the census, because they have better people to spend their efforts on.

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      Or you know their buddies could just point some more guns at them to get them to do what they’re being paid to do.

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      I think we’re more at the point where they should be getting arrested by local cops. It says a lot that local cops are defending them instead.

      Saying “I will shoot you” is illegal, no matter who you are. It doesn’t matter if they work for ICE, the FBI, the local police, or McDonalds; they should be arrested if they say that.

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        They’re eager nazi Gestapo, they shouldn’t be reentering society at all, and fuck them if they think I want tax payer money supporting their life sentences - a guillotine for each of them, after a fair trial of course.

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    This sounds a lot like Israeli soldiers in Palestine. It’s slightly surprising to see ICE agents become the force of evil, knowing that they will make themselves and their families targets. At least the Israeli military can run back behind its walls when it’s off shift … that’s not how the U.S. pigs live.

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      Yeah. I don’t want a civil war because I don’t want to live in a mix of allies and enemies with no clear front line. I bet ICE doesn’t want that either. Hence the masks, and deploying troops from one state to another. One of the oldest warlord tricks in the book.

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    Okay, what if it was someone in ICE they are responding to? Do they deny the compassion to heal wounded people just because they think a EMT might pick political sides?

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      They would 100% do that if the roles were reversed, and thus they assume that yes, the EMTs would.

      It is very difficult sometimes to remember these are people, too. Tells you a lot about how fucking stupid we can be.

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        Yeah, they think we are lying when we say we don’t want to hurt them, even though we disagree with them. There is a reason they always think they are being threatened, cuz they would be threatening if they were in the same position, so they see our actions through that filter.

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      They never show up for anything, except to strut around playing billy badass. They are completely useless LARPers

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        Afghanistan held against the two greatest military forces in the world, and you know what they mainly used? Yeah, guns.

        Believe it or not but being able to snatch the life of someone away from over 200 yards is a super power that those in power would love to minimize and, if they could, take away from the common person.

        Only a fool would let that power be taken away.