• mumblerfish@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    In the top one you will never actually kill an infinite number of people, just approach it linearly. The bottom one will kill an infinite amount of people in finite time.

    Edit: assuming constant speed of the train.

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      5 months ago

      I’m going bottom.

      NOT LIKE THAT. Not like sexually. I just mean I want to kill all the people on the bottom with my train.

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        If people on the top rail are equally spaced at a distance d from each other, then you’d need to go a distance nd to kill the nth person. For any number n, nd is just a number, so it’ll never be infinity. Meanwhile the number of real numbers between 0 and 1 is infinite (for example you have 0.1, 0.01, 0.001, etc), so running a distance d will kill an infinite number of people. Think of it like this: The people on the top are blocks, so walking a finite distance you only step on a finite number of blocks. Meanwhile the people on the bottom are infinitely thin sheets. To even have a thickness you need an infinite number of them.

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        Different slopes.

        On top you kill one person per whole number increment. 0 -> 1 kills one person

        On bottom you kill infinity people per whole number increment. 0 -> 1 kills infinity people

        You can basically think of it like the entirety of the top rail happens for each step of the bottom rail.

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        There are an infinite amount of real numbers between 0 and 1. On the top track, when you reach 1, you would only kill 1 person. But on the bottom track you would’ve already killed infinite people by the time you reached 1. And you would continue to kill infinite people every time you reached a new whole number.

        On the top track. You would tend towards infinity, meaning the train would never actually kill infinite people; There would always be more people to kill, and the train would always be moving forwards. Those two constants are what make it tend towards infinity, but the train can never actually reach infinity as there is no end to the tracks.

        But on the bottom track. The train can reach infinity multiple times, and will do so every time it reaches a whole number. Basically, by the time you’ve reached 1, the bottom track has already killed more people than the top track ever will.

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          What I still don’t understand is where time comes into play. Is it defined somewhere? Wouldn’t everything still happen instantly even if there are infinite steps inbetween?

          I guess it could be implied by it being a trolley on a track, but then the whole mixing of reality and infinity would also kind of fall apart.

          Is every person tied to the track by default? If so, wouldn’t it be more humane to just kill them?

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          and will do so every time it reaches a whole number

          Worse. It will kill an infinity every time it will move any distance no matter how small.

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          There aren’t infinite trams. There’s one tram that has to step over (roll through) one person at a time. Good luck to it making any progress, it will never get to the person numbered 1