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But what was the reason for Henry’s condemnation by the University to five and a half centuries of infamy? It was a murder. In 1242 he and a number of other men of the town of Oxford were found guilty of murdering a student of the University. Henry and his accomplices were fined £80 by King Henry III in May 1242 and were made to leave Oxford as a result, forced to stay away (and allowed no closer than Northampton) at least until the King returned from abroad.
Further research is needed to discover the exact details of what happened here but it seems that Henry Symeonis had bought the King’s pardon and his permission to return to Oxford. The King was willing to allow his return if the University agreed to it. But the University refused and chose to ignore the King’s order of 25 March 1264, resuming its hostility to Henry Symeonis. In fact, it felt so strongly about it, that it gave Henry Symeonis the unique honour of being named in its own statutes, making the University’s dislike of him official and perpetual.
So they did know who he was and what he did.
“By 1608, SOME people didn’t know who he was. We mention them here for higher article clickability.”
Yes but only because of a guy in 1910s who looked into it
The identity of Henry Symeonis was only (re-)discovered in 1912 by the then Keeper of the University Archives, Reginald Lane Poole. In an article for the English Historical Review, he looked at the curious statute and tried to get to the bottom of the Henry Symeonis mystery.
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Fair on them really.
Man, boarding school kids always got the easy treatment.
Sounds like people do know who he was and what he had done. Clickbait headline.
Sometimes knowledge is lost and then later rediscovered.
Wonder why it was only Masters of Arts students?
Or was that the only Masters Degree Oxford had?
Their Computer Science department sucked back then.
Lol
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They didn’t even write unit tests!
National Archives gov uk says £80 in 1270 is approx £78k in 2025
Thank you
Fuck Henry Symeonis, all my homies hate Henry Symeonis.
Meanwhile, Ea-Nasir and his shitty copper will never, ever be forgotten.
that thieving no-good son of a jackal!
I’m going to try and make “You look like you’re friends with Henry Symeonis” a casual insult. Wish me luck.
Your mom is friends with Henry Symeonis.
your real dad is Henry Symeonis
thats so fetch.
Stop trying to make fetch happen
I know what you did in 1263
Was it in summer '63?
Forget, but don’t forgive!
I don’t know who you are or what you did, but fuck you!
💯
Spite is one of the greatest human emotions.
So much has been achieved because of it. Hell the moon landings were a massive fuck you.
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A grudge worse than the sin, apparently.
So over time, the number of people lying about that particular statement reduced, until it was eventually zero.
I wonder what would have happened if someone refused to swear. I’m the kind of stubborn bastard that would refuse to swear to something I didn’t understand. I imagine the university probably just ignored it if someone refused to swear because it wasn’t worth the headache to deal with someone refusing.
