• assembly@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Blatant politics from the Supreme Court. The states had no standing to appear before the court on a federal issue. Kagan dissent was the ruling that should have been.

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      Yes it is. And those who didn’t make payments or weren’t able to during the pause just extended their debt slavery by 3 years.

      It’s outrageous that loans that cannot be discharged have such high interest rates.

      It’s outrageous that the something that benefits us all must be taken on by those willing to step up and learn.

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        Well at least we saved a massive amount with inflation, better to pay it now 4 years later after having it at 0 interest than 4 years ago when money was worth more

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    When I got engaged to my wife and we were going over our finances, her student loans blew my mind. The way they set up her payments, more than half of her loans were growing despite making monthly payments. The freaking interest was higher than she paid in every month.

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      I have a friend in the same position. It’s actually pretty sad to see. They will never be out from under the crushing weight of this debt.

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    I do not get how these 6 states were determined to have standing in the first place? Isn’t the whole US justice system predicated on the fact that you need to experience direct or indirect harm, be an actually involved party for you to be able to sue? They’re federal loans, so federal money, where does their standing come from?

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      You think any of this matters to fundamentalists in robes? They’re the scum of the Earth, and Biden is too gutless to take them on, and had the gall to say he has a ‘fear of politicizing’ the court.

      The US is beyond redemption.

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    Summary of the opinion: Nobody here has standing, but… Missouri maybe?, Cause the corporation the state created won’t be able to take in all those fees. Also, congress only allowed completely trashing rules, or slightly tweaking them, this is more “in-between” and we don’t like that. Oh, and the replacement rules only have a requirement to be published, theres no authority to actually write them. This is a new rule, so it’s not allowed. Furthermore, the action taken was too big, unprecedented, we don’t like that.

    Summary of the dissent: Nobody here has standing. PERIOD. That corporation could bring it to us, and is explicitly permitted to act as an independent financial and legal entity, so they can bring it theirselves. IF they brought it themselves, congress clearly delegated authority to “waive or modify” provisions, and provide substitute rules appropriate to the situation, after they had passed it explicitly for the gulf war, then explicitly for 9/11, and then opened the doors wide open to any national emergency because they have more important things to deal with during emergencies than student loan policy. The scale of the action matches theS scale of the emergency, and is actually smaller than the previous action (loan pause) that the previous administration instituted. So in other words, loan relief like this may have been a shit idea, may have been a great idea, but it is exactly what the law allows and the court has no business deciding otherwise. It’s not our fucking job to write policy.

    You can probably pretty obviously tell which opinion I agree with more… This court is trash, gymnastics required to justify most of their decisions. Expand the court so the scales of power don’t fucking seesaw from regular jurisprudence to batshit insanity upon the death of a single robe-clad geriatric. 😫

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      yeah, I bet the millions of Americans who voted Democrat and then had their votes functionally overturned by the archaic electoral college are just thrilled that student loan forgiveness was blocked

      get a grip dude

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      Lashing out against all Americans is misguided. I didn’t vote for Trump. You gonna yell at me too? Maybe show some empathy for those of us affected rather than talking trash to a group of people who are now disadvantaged by these recent SC decisions. Especially the one about discrimination.

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        Same here, didn’t vote for Trump, held my fucking nose and conformed and voted Hillary in 2016 because I was still a socdem back then and I was scared. Then 2020 rolls around, centrist democrats backstab Bernie and simultaneously rally behind Joe Biden’s lukewarm corpse to stop a progressive from gaining any more momentum. Now they sit on their hands every step of the way, no effort to remove the filibuster, Biden and congress come together to stop the railroad strike, no effort to pack the court, nothing.

        I’ve voted in every fucking election (local, state, national, midterms, etc.) since 2008 when I turned 18. It doesn’t fucking make any difference. Candidates are chosen and corporations always win. The system is working as intended for those who it was built for. Hint: It is not me or you.

        I keep seeing these annoying libs lash out towards leftists for the mistakes of the Democrat party. Democrats back some of the most unlikable candidates, backstab their own, don’t exercise their power when they do have it, are condescending, overly worried about optics and decorum, and do almost nothing to combat the broken hydrant of lies and vitriol coming from Republicans.

        Almost 100 million eligible Americans didn’t vote in 2016. And yes we know the electoral college, gerrymandering, voter id laws, material conditions, etc, impact that number. Yet libs don’t seem to have the mental capacity to ever look inward and analyze the conditions that resulted in these outcomes. They are so fucking dense.

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          I absolutely defended her and rallied folks to vote in that election. I live in Missouri, though, which means we are constantly outnumbered. I tried, though.

          Advice for you: drop the internet virtue signaling and assumptive behavior.