Oh noez! Anyway…
I’m indifferent on unsold Teslas being targeted, not like law exists in this country anymore. 🤷🏻♂️
I am absolutely 100% fucking appalled that people would be ok with doxing Tesla owners. These are real people with families who now have to fear for their safety because they thought it was cool technology when they bought the car. They also may not be able to easily afford to sell the car and buy a new or used one right away.
This does nothing good for anyone and hurts any resistance movement and sadly makes any resistance look like it lacks empathy for fellow human beings just like how what the right is doing shows they lack empathy.
Eh, I think most people would agree with you here but no one would go out of their way to stop or even denounce this cause that’s at the very bottom of the list of issues.
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And just like that we’re now all focused on the couple of (quite frankly) idiots that are burning consumers’ Teslas instead of the unsold ones at dealerships. Again. Just like every discussion of a protest is not about the tens of thousands of people protesting but about the 10 people looting.
Looks like the attempt to control the narrative is working as expected.
the ends justify the means. if we fail at this stage, dystopia will reign over western civilization for generations to come. the cruelest things we do to defeat the fascists pale in comparison to the damage they will do if they are allowed to take over.
Assuming for one moment that the ends really do justify the means, how is burning somebody’s car going to stop the rise of fascism?
it’s a war. all resistance is for the cause.
And how does trespassing on some random person’s property and destroying their car constitute “resistance?”
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it’s a total rejection of musk. it will force tesla to oust him. the car owners are just pawns in a greater war against the fascists. sorry/not sorry.
Ok, say this all succeeds and Musk is thrown out of Tesla. What next? He’ll still be the a billionaire with a US President as a puppet and complete “authority” to continue gutting the federal government.
I’m usually really good at being able to be objective and see both sides of an issue. I just can’t do that with this. It’s equivalent to a gang spraying and praying and killing innocent bystanders and saying “Oh well, it was for the cause”. Like how is this any better than the right being ok with making millions of poor people homeless and hungry?
honestly? i don’t think i even care at this point. we’re a cancer. i’m in favor of just about anything that reduces the global population by half without destroying the environment or harming innocent animals.
rwandan style genocide seems like exactly what we deserve. i’d rather see the left pull it off than the right.
I am doubtful.
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No innocent people on this website as far as I can tell
You shouldn’t be ok with doxing people even if they are not good people.
It’s an all or nothing standpoint. If you are fine with people getting doxxed for some reason you believe to be evil, then you inadvertently say that doxxing as a whole is fine. Eventually someone innocent is going to get doxxed, whether it be by accident (no such list of doxxed people is 100% accurate) or by someone with different viewpoints than you.
anyone that makes goose and gander comparisons applying to both humans and sociopaths is woefully naive.
it’s ok when the good guys do it. we get all the exceptions, they get none. it’s a war. they’re not humans anymore. if we want to win, we have to see it that way. there is no amount of cruelty we can inflict on our enemies that will cause greater suffering than what happens if they win.
no fucking mercy. guns.
You shouldn’t be ok with doxing people even if they are not good people.
What if they’re pedophiles?
I don’t think you’ve looked at the website. The only individuals on there are Elon musk and cash Patel
Dogequest said it will remove the personal details of Tesla drivers only if they can prove they have sold their vehicles.
It is unknown if all the names listed on the map are Tesla owners. In New Jersey, the site listed close to 50 alleged owners.
NBC News spoke to six Tesla owners or their representatives who confirmed that at least some information on the website was accurate, though other owners said that in some cases phone numbers or addresses were out of date.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/tesla-dogequest-website-owner-list-dox-site-link-rcna197112
Considering one of their statement literally says that to prove you shouldn’t be doxxed you have to give out even more private info, it seems pretty telling.
Oh I see! I do not support doxxing regular people
then you’re weak and a liability to the cause.
lol. How am I a “liability to the cause” exactly?
Dogequest said it will remove the personal details of Tesla drivers only if they can prove they have sold their vehicles.
That’s incredibly fair. They shouldn’t have had the money for those vehicles in the first place.
Sell them, get something cheaper, and use the money to help people that will never be able to afford a fucking tesla.
Especially now, selling a Model 3 to get something cheaper is going to be in “car is probably falling apart” territory. Those things are relatively cheap on the used car market now, less than you’d expect a random 2020 sedan to cost.
I don’t care because they waste their money on bullshit status symbols while kids go hungry. Their cars literally cost more than my house.
They can honestly get fucked and I hope a lot worse comes to them until they start doing their part to reduce the disparity in wealth.
There’s a used car lot across the street from my neighborhood with like 3 or 4 Model 3s under $16k.
The Model 3 has been around long enough and priced low enough for it to be in the realm of “boring option of a car”, no more a status symbol than a Toyota Camry.
People need perspective. The right is literally killing people with policy and detaining /disappearing citizens and destroying this country.
The left is burning cars in protest as it actually hurts the bottom line of a right leader. The other leftists are more apauled at the burning cars than at the stuff the right is doing that is much worse.
I’ve got news for you. This is going to get a lot worse than burnt cars if you ever want it to get better.
Why limit it to just teslas? Make everyone who wastes money on a luxury vehicle while their are starving children regret it.
Its about hurting musk more than anything else. Its not about attacking luxury. Its not about attacking green. Its about hurting Musk since he is destroying lives with his doge bs. This is said as someone who has no interest in vandalizing Tesla’s. But I understand where they are coming from.
Because ‘luxury’ is a sliding scale. A lot of dudebros spend 100k+ on ‘trucks’ that have never seen dirt, let alone hauled anything. An acquaintance of mine has a V12 Jaguar that he has lovingly coddled back from the dead by sheer will and a LOT of late nights in his meager garage. He’s just to the positive side of ‘poor’ but that car is his fun-money-entertainment (doesn’t have kids or a GF at the moment).
the “left” has been in collusion with the right the whole time
no right and left citizens but just citizens caught in the crossfire being fed the horseshit that it is the US “two-party system”
Reminds me: HOW THE HELL is their stock UP 23.72% this past week. I mean, what. the. fuck.
probably artificially kept up by investors, or by musk or his cohorts so they can sell thier stocks before it crashes.
Because investors know that they will almost certainly eventually be bailed out by a massive government purchase, so they bought the dip.
The same way a brand new crypto coin suddenly gain a lot of value. You bump it until you’re not the last moron holding the bag.
I went there and there are 5 people listed on it, like Elon and Kash Patel. If they have regular innocent people on the site it isn’t showing them to me.
The vast majority of icons are just dealerships and superchargers.
The energy is good, the aim is shit.
Children.
Is there a paywall-free version of this article?
People showing exactly where they draw the class line in here lmao
Anyone who has the excess wealth to afford a tesla and chooses to buy one over helping those in need can get fucked.
This manhunt for Tesla owners is wild. The overwhelming majority of these cars will have been bought way before everything went to shit.
You really need to get your head out of your own ass if you think this is the route to get people to join your cause. Not everybody is in a position to arbitrairily sell their car and donate proceeds to charity like these Hollywood stars.
If the car is even yours to begin with and not a lease or company car.
I don’t care about a manhunt for tesla owners, specifically.
All rich people can get fucked though. Millionaires and billionaires. They need to be working overtime to fix the problems they caused. Otherwise, they’re enemies and deserve to be treated as such.
We don’t disagree I think, but I feel people in general are too blasé about who they allow themselves to be set up against. This is a recurring theme. People with a slightly bigger house or nicer car aren’t the enemy. Nobody who has to show up to work for a living is the enemy. Neither is anybody reliant on social programs.
Cirtainly not as long as we have things like corporations that book millions, if not billions in profit years on end yet have to be bailed out with public money after a few months of pandemic.
Musk called a guy a pedo because he was angry they didn’t use his solution to save kids that would have died if they had waited for him. That was in 2018. Wanna bet most Tesla on the road were sold after that happened?
Musk was shit way before the current events, people still supported him financially.
You are arbitrarily deciding a line where people should have stopped buying his cars to prove your point in the present. But nobody hunted down teslas after the pedo remark? So evidently people disagree with your line.
I’m not sure what you expect people to do with this.
If CEO’s being pricks is such a valid reason to drop whole companies Amazon also shouldn’t exist. Instead Amazon is worth more then a laundry list of western economies.
I mean… No, Amazon shouldn’t exist? What’s the point you’re trying to make here?
I’m just pointing out that there’s a shit ton of people that just decided to ignore the fact that Musk is a moron that has no business managing a multinational company and none of them deserve compassion now that they suddenly realize that maybe they shouldn’t have bought a car from him.
I love how you’re just ignoring the meat of my reply…
Acknowledge Polerviking’s meat!
Well it is fairly majestic if I do say so myself.
People might not have had enough principles to care about the pedo remark, it doesn’t make them right or good people. People purchase plenty of shit from evil companies, does it means what the companies do isn’t evil? No. It means people are idiots.
So you agree there’s no reason to be doxxing them.
I was replying to the “people bought these cars before Musk became an idiot” part only.
It’s expensive to ship anything to my state (alaska) so amazon is pretty much the only choice.
It’s working tho. Have you seen how butthurt Elon and Donald are? Tesla stocks going down?
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i hope your not that naive, the point is to send a message, and TESLA is clearly suffering from the falling sales and the continuing boycotting and vandalism is working. Also the fact that teslas in general have defect issues anyways.
Im not saying to not boycott Tesla. Im saying Tesla isn’t hurt by damaging or destoying someones private property.
But most or all. You don’t need to freaking dox it’s owners to key or even entirely destroy a Tesla…
People don’t need to get hurt or worse over their car. I don’t care what justification you make up in your head for it that is just wrong on all levels.
Im saying Tesla isn’t hurt by damaging or destoying someones private property.
The share price is down 50% YTD
The interesting thing is that just talking about damage done to Teslas can harm the share price even further.
You talk about people getting hurt. I hope only the car is being damaged.
You need to look at my reply in the context of the news I’m replying to.
This website is for publishing name and address info of people.
The most innocent thing that can reasonably come from that sort of activism are threats of which you can only hope are just that.
The only people who work for DOGE are named, not Tesla owners.
That’s not how I read this (excerpt from article):
Dogequest,’ the recently launched website which is doxing some Tesla owners and members of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and putting their personal information on a searchable map
Journalism is unreliable in the 21st century. You have to go to primary sources
m saying Tesla isn’t hurt by damaging or destoying someones private property.
But, they are!
Insurance premiums going up for Teslas make it more likely people will skip buying them.
Except they are.
Any cases of people being hurt yet? Or are you just making shit up?
Unfortunately due to how insurance works, damaging Teslas is yet another way to raise premiums.
Also, this isn’t about joining a cause anymore. This is about the only method of retaliation left. I assume most who could afford a Tesla (which was always on the higher priced side of things) are also those who could have by now afforded to do a trade in for basically any other car for months by now.
If I myself somehow still had a Tesla, I’d get rid of it for a used car if I had to. If I could afford it though, I’d pay for a punk band to create a song against Elon and Trump, and shoot a music video of said punk band and friends destroying the Tesla in slow mo and lighting it on fire, ending it with the car blowing up.
Actually, how about you find poor people who own a Tesla and reach out to them. I’ll crowdfund for them so we can make this music video happen, and the proceeds will go for them to buy a new car. Find me more than one and I can do different music videos - maybe dubstep or electronica while this guy shoots his plasma cannon at it. Or Classical music or an orchestra as we destroy a car with icicles and rust for example.
I’m sorry, do you genuinely think that burning some random guy’s car is actual retaliation?
You really underestimate how many people buy above their means for cars.
I’m sorry, do you genuinely think that burning some random guy’s car is actual retaliation?
When that car has become a symbol, definitely. The car being burnt isn’t random after all.
Otherwise your statement has the same energy as saying we shouldn’t burn some random guy’s work uniform. It omits that this is the uniform:
You really underestimate how many people buy above their means for cars.
As far as I’ve seen, most Teslas being scorched are dealership ones, not personal ones. But even if it were a personal one, isn’t insurance mandatory in the USA? Probably would get a bigger payout if someone did torch it rather than trading in at a dealership. And would definitely probably get more out of it than if it were just keyed and the tires were punctured. Bonus, one less swatsicar in circulation.
When that car has become a symbol, definitely. The car being burnt isn’t random after all.
It is some random man’s car still. I didn’t say it was a random car. And likely someone who hates trump too, since they’re driving electric
Thw car wasn’t a symbol when they bought it
Bonus, one less swatsicar in circulation
One less electric car. You want to actively destroy the environment to own the conservatives. Not passively. Actively.
Also no, coverage for your own car is not mandatory, what?
Yeah, it is completely shocking to everyone outside the US that auto insurance isn’t mandatory.
I mean. Pretty sure all states require damage coverage. Just not coverage for your own car
Cause? What cause? They finally found their version of Trans people to target.
Let’s be completely honest here. We know right hates LGBT because they can’t be openly racist anymore. People NEED to hate and fight something. They’ll use anyone and anything as the target to lash out.
Now we have people target Tesla because Musk is unreachable… Really? That’s the avenue you want down? World’s easiest target and you pick one thing he’s associated that’s good and will effect normal people? Cool. Checks out. You can’t put face on starlink, spacex or twitter anymore apparently.
It’s stupid and while so far removed from anti LGBT the other groups were targeting, this isn’t a race to the bottom.
have you actually seen his sales, and stocks, hes definitely negative impacted by it, you should really go read some news. Also please correctly refer them as LGBTQ+ people, when you use the former definition you are doing it on purpose almost seemingly out of the same way right wingers say.
Is it stupid if it works?
Also, I didn’t know people were born Tesla owners. Interesting stuff.
I fundamentally disagree with doxing regular people. It’s one thing if it’s a public figure who is actively antagonizing people and using anonymity as a layer of protection against repercussions for their awful acts. But publishing the names and addresses of people who simply bought a car is not something we should be doing.
I agree with you on doxing and am very confused by burning normal people’s cars as a strategy.
I’m not seeing normal people on this website. Am I missing something?
Normally I’d agree.
But, I don’t really care anymore.
One side has crossed all sorts of lines and now pushback is happening. Innocents always get caught up in situations like that.
They can sell their Teslas.
Isn’t this just class infighting though, something completely against the benefit of the workers so the owners can continue to pick our pockets while we aren’t looking?
Isn’t this just class infighting though
Nah. It’s trying to affect the bottom line of an extremely wealthy person who uses his wealth to the detriment of average Americans. Limit the wealth. Limit the amount of damage he can do. Or, we could do nothing to his bottom line and he can become even more wealthy and do even more than buy a presidency and deconstruct our government, illegally laying off thousands of federal workers.
Also, I can’t afford a Tesla. So I’m not even sure if I consider Tesla owners to be of the same class as I am.
You do know he already got paid for those so you are not impacting anything except some rando innocent person who now will actively hate your cause and move further towards the fascist side? Or maybe you don’t. Know it or not burning peoples Tesla’s is one of the absolute worst and stupidest moves someone can do if they actually want things to change. That just adds one more them to the “us vrs them”.
Personally, I think people that own them should dump them, flood the market with used Swasticars nobody wants to be associated with. However, direct action does seem to be having an impact.
I suspect anyone the victim of this type of crime will think twice about buying another.
Not when that part of the class is determined to ruin everyone else in the class. Nazi’s aren’t a part of the community.
Yeah, I hate to break it to you, but people who bought a Tesla four years ago aren’t Nazis.
No, but they are supporting one by continuing to buy/drive them.
Because everyone is rich like you and can afford to just buy a new car because some CEO revealed himself to be an evil cunt. You are so out of touch it hurts my head. If folks like you are the majority of the people on the anti-musk side we are so very destined to lose this war. So discouraging, ugh. We have no chance at all with that mindset.
Because everyone is rich like you and can afford to just buy a new car because some CEO revealed himself to be an evil cunt.
Lol. Buddy, I can’t even afford a Tesla. And yes, if by owning a specific vehicle I was supporting a FUCKING NAZI who bought a presidency and was deconstructing the democracy I live in and firing my fucking friends from their federal jobs, you better bet your ass I’d do something about it. Like selling that fucking car and getting another one.
Sometimes you have to grow a pair of balls and do the right thing, even if it inconveniences you. And no one who owns a Tesla is in a position to be massively inconvenienced by getting rid of it.
How is having a paid off car supporting anyone but one’s own means of commuting to work?
And everyone driving a Volkswagen is a nazi then too? If you support burning teslas, you must also support burning those
Not sure if you noticed, but it’s 2025, not 1938. Yeah, Volkswagon fucked up by supporting Nazis almost a century ago. The Tesla thing is happening NOW. Volkswagon is not the same company it was almost a century ago, just like I’m sure Tesla won’t be the same company almost a century from now, when the fucking Nazi that runs it is dead. Volkswagon is also highly responsible for the much, much safer 3-point seatbelt being standardized. So they’ve made positive contributions.
Well that’s a moronic argument
It’s not moronic, you are literally suggesting burning random people’s cars because the manufacturer is a nazi. I pointed out another example of such a manufacturer, and you have a problem with it.
Or if you want to be like that, how about just all classical voltswagons.
It’s not moronic
It is, because the arrow of time moves forward and you’re talking about a company a century ago vs. now as if literally nothing has changed about that company or the rest of the world around it in that time.
If it was 1938 right now, I’d be advocating burning the fuck out of Volkswagons. It makes literally no sense to do that now.
The CEO of Volkswagon isn’t currently doing a fascist coup you fucking moron
It’s never class infighting when you are attacking class traitors. They are free, of course, to stop being class traitors.
Same logic applies to cops.
If you truly think someone who bought a car years ago is a class traitor, I don’t really know what to say.
It’s not like we’re accusing them of planning it.
But the bottom line is the owner of the company they are supporting is a NAZI who bought a presidency and is deconstructing our government and illegally firing thousands of Americans.
If you continue to drive/buy Teslas, you are supporting that Nazi and empowering him to do more damage to our country.
If they are still driving a luxury car made by Nazis, to promote Nazism, even when it becomes very obvious a nazi symbol… Yes, they are.
First, Teslas are not luxury cars, haha. You could buy one for $35,000 USD right now, and their build quality is significantly subpar of luxury.
To the main point - look, I get it, the CEO is a Nazi and fuck anyone who buys or bought a Tesla recently, but punishing a working class citizen with a 5 year old car and telling them they need to take a loss and cough up for a new vehicle is extremely stupid and naive.
I sure hope you dont own a Volkswagen, as it’s a symbol of Nazism.
Is the current execs of Volkswagem supporting a neonazi, right now?
No.
I still don’t own one, however.
And yes, I get it. Sometimes it is an inconvenience to oppose fascism. Wah.
And 5 years ago, Musk was still a shitstain, so even that excuse is flimsy as fuck.
As someone who was raised in a conservative family but who climbed through a great many hoops to finally arrive at socialist thought: if you nutters were the left while I made that journey, I doubt I ever would have finished it.
The world has enough psychos in it, please stop hurting people who you can’t even be sure are complicit.
They didn’t “simply buy a car”, they bought a symbol, and everything that brings along with it.
If you buy one today, sure, a few years ago, before their QC issues and mush really started fucking with the company, they weren’t an awful deal.
Even the cyberdumpsters, you could have been on a waiting list for 3-4 years and paid a solid downpayment.
What happens if mush buys out Rivian, all those retroactively turn to shit?
They’re also probably trapped in a loan. That 50-60k car was financed. it’s now worth 1/3 of it’s original cost. A lot of people who shouldn’t have spent 50k on a car will because monthly payments make it affordable to them, now they sell it and can only replace it with a hundai.
I guess it sucks to buy a car from a nazi, huh?
This is not new… how long has he owned twitter? 3 years ago? How long has it been since he accused a lead of a rescue team of being a pedo? 9 years now?
now they sell it and can only replace it with a hundai.
Which is exactly what they should do, hopefully it puts a used one out to further prevent a (committed) buyer from getting a new one.
Anyone got the address? I want to add it to my block list so I never get tempted to visit it.
I went here https://dogeque.st/
Wherr there is the onion link dogeqstqzn2yjns2d6ccns7aa52tglno63ay2uv2orfvd7e23khcsxid.onion
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This is gonna be the thing that splits the left into “fuck yeah burn them” and “this is going too far” and then nothing will get done because we’ll focus too much on infighting. Can’t we all come together for something not stupid like destroying random people’s cars? If you’re going to take drastic measures, at least do something more productive. Throw a Molotov at your representatives’ cars instead. I have no tears for a burnt Tesla, but I wish people were using this energy to punish more deserving people in more meaningful ways. I’m still waiting on all those “Luigi copycats” people keep thinking are gonna appear
What about destroying unsold teslas, as well as other acts of resistance?
Fine by me, vandalizing a car that’s already been bought is where I think it gets pointless and counterproductive. Trashing the dealerships and corporate locations is great because the business is suffering, rather than a random person.
Destroying unsold Teslas at least doesn’t hurt people who may have bought their cars just because at one point Tesla made the best EVs (not even close to the best cars, but definitely the best EVs in terms of powertrain and battery. A while ago, anyway). So there’s way less collateral damage and fewer people to alienate.
There is one caveat though. The dealerships are probably insured and would financially be better off having the cars burn as nobody’s buying them right now. Though maybe if enough Teslas burn, Tesla dealers become uninsurable. Now that would put them out of business real quick.
Additionally, if someone managed to somehow disable a Tesla factory without directly hurting the workers, that would bring tears of joy to many people. The workers themselves are just simple laborers though. It’s not like jobs are easy to come by right now and I’m sure plenty would leave if they could. So I hope nobody shoots up a factory with workers inside or something. Even leaving the moral implications of homicide aside, it would also instantly boost Elon and Tesla in a lot of people’s eyes if something like this happened.
I think the charging stations would be good. It’s not like they’re that useful for anyone not driving a tesla. Even when your non-tesla car can be used in one I’ve heard of people getting harassed by tesla drivers for doing so.
Interesting idea!
Hmm maybe. I’m not sure on the specifics. I thought other cars could use those and that’s why they sell those adapters.
Also it sorta feels wrong to me, ngl. Like one should be hitting oil and gas infrastructure instead.
God gave us two hands for a reason :)
Poetic, I like it 😊 😉
Unfortunately Tesla chargers have been becoming open to other manufacturers to use as well. They no longer serve just Teslas.
Guess who makes the money from the chargers though.
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It’s not random peoples’ cars. It’s cars at Tesla dealerships.
Random peoples’ cars may not be getting burnt, but they are absolutely getting damaged by keying or spray paint or whatever. I know at least one owner who had something like that happen to them and they now fear for their family’s safety because of it. That’s not cool.
It’s really cool, actually.
People buy expensive cars while children starve just so they can look good in front of their peers. I support whoever damages their status symbols.
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Anyone who doesn’t agree with me is causing infighting
Hey, that sounds like the way the mods and the inside clique at BoingBoing operate!
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I’m still waiting on all those “Luigi copycats” people keep thinking are gonna appear
There’s been 2 attacks on CEOs since… The copycats are appearing.
I wish they were more successful, but yes it seems our media has learned to stop talking about it, same with the Trump assassination attempts
Billionaire Media just learned not to sensationalize them.
My friend told me about this show he was working at. It was a pharmaceutical meeting with lots of c suite execs.
They told him to not mention to anyone that the execs would be there on account of “recent news”.
I don’t know why but some leftists will just find the dumbest fucking hills to die on, while completely ignoring real causes that actually move agendas forward.
Where is this energy in our unions and community groups? Where are these people in town halls and school board meetings? Where are the canvassers, the volunteers, the organizers?
Stop burning cars and start doing some of the damned work you cowards. Invest in your community and show people you’re helpful and trustworthy instead of psychotic and destructive.
you’re assuming those things aren’t being done simultaneously. additionally, the type of misplaced violent rage you will continue to witness is born from oppression and having no voice or power. eventually, the caged animal thrashes regardless of what it damages, itself included. it might not be rational or logical but it has to be expected as an outcome. we are not going to stop people from burning shit down. it simply will never happen. too many people feel they have no other way to make it known that fascism will not be the way of life here than to scare the shit out of our leaders through violence and a demonstration of the people’s willingness to execute.
you can fucking hate that this is happening, but it is always going to. i’m not personally going to condemn these kinds of responses because i recognize it as an emotional and forced reaction to living year after year in a country that doesn’t give a shit about you but will exploit you until you die. tesla is a representation of what the last 70 years have come to: we are now speeding on the path towards technofascism and they’re not even doing it behind our backs. people are going to take their anger out on the fascist car endorsed by our fascist presidential figurehead and sold by our South African fascist president.
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do you think that after defacing a Tesla the person is real tired and has to take a nap for a while
I think well adjusted people participating in their communities and meaningful action are not burning cars.
i think people are allowed to have hobbies
I’m fucking pissed at leftists who burn teslas. It’s an incredible waste of an electric car … It’s terrible for the environment. There’s better things to burn down if you want to create change
Anyone who thought Luigi copycats would appear is coping and I’ve been saying that from the start. And I say that as someone who wishes they would.
The article doesn’t say if it’s targeting recent Tesla buyers or all owners.
Most current Tesla owners are not MAGAs and bought when they were marketed as a green vehicle.
Musk has been acting nazi for quite some time.
I think most people weren’t fully aware until recently. You had to be active online or actually look for information to see it was more than just rich billionaire syndrome. We all live in bubbles and some people didn’t get to hear about all the details with the 2019 pedo submarine incident Nowadays it would be very difficult to argue you didn’t know but bought a Tesla because it’s in your face.
For context, the model S was first sold in 2012, the model x in 2015, model 3 in 2017 and Y in 2020.
So the model 3 was released when he was a Trump advisor, and the Y when he openly started spreading conspiracy theories non stop.
As for the “we didn’t know” excuse it’s as bullshit now has it was in 1945.
Yes let’s compare owning a cirtain car to holocaust denial.
The holocaust didn’t start with gas chambers, it started more than 10 years before with people ignoring evil because it was convenient for them.
For context, the comment the one above replied to originally said “gassing Jews” instead of “holocaust denial”
Yes it did. I changed that to be somewhat less insensitive.
people buying the cybertruck are fully aware of Elons behaviour, they buy it to stroke thier own egos. ive seen an increase in newer regular teslas being driven around, i think some people are ignorant to his politics.
Musk has been acting nazi for quite some time.
Yup. People are acting like this is something that just happened in January.
My first educational experience regarding how fucked Musk is was when he randomly called a Thai rescue worker a pedophile in 2018. And it was relatively high profile news. I saw a post on Reddit about a year ago asking when Elon went crazy and most comments agreed the first highly public instance was the Thai cave event.
So I’ve spent the last 7 years seeing more and more Teslas on the road knowing this guy was a grade-A fucking asshole that these drivers were enriching. And people are acting like his assholery is some new thing.
Not as openly. Yoy would have really looked into his background to know what kind of person he was and even then he had not gone full nazi.
My car was made in the 90s.
All owners that they can find in various leaks/databases when I checked last week.
And musk has been a known evil dipshit since at least 2018 when he threw a hissy fit because the divers who rescued those kids didn’t use musk branded products. He accused one of the divers of being a pedophile and actively devoted resources to “proving” this.
Let alone the countless stories of musk being a sex pest (remember having to buy a woman a pony because of whatever he did to her?)
So, at best, people can argue “I didn’t care enough to do any research on what I bought and accidentally enabled a nazi.”. At which point… I really don’t give a fuck? Its the same as the people who couldn’t be bothered to do any research and were surprised to hear that biden apparently wasn’t on the ballot.
Their apathy is causing untold horror to at risk groups and the global economy. So they can go fuck themselves.
And, totally anecdotal: I have seen fucked up teslas in parking lots next to un-fucked ones that just had a “I bought this before he went insane” or “I hate him too” bumper sticker.
I can honestly say I don’t research the political affiliations and actions of every CEO of every product I purchase.
You can’t argue with these people, anyone who owns a tesla deserves to have it destroyed in their minds.
I detect nothing wrong with that.
Well, good time to start
Okay? Then don’t expect me or anyone else to research the political affiliation of the owner of the tesla we see on the street to decide if they are a hateful pro-nazi prick or not?
Germans in 1945: Sorry I am not political.
Russians 2022: Not political.
USA 2025: I did not know, it was only in the media for years everywhere.
Actual 90% of Americans: I’m busy trying to survive daily life working essentially paycheck to paycheck, maybe working two or three jobs and a side gig to make ends meet, commuting over an hour each way to work, being overly stressed from work, having to pay for some of the most expensive healthcare on the planet even with work provided insurance, and never able to afford to take a real vacation or even time to sit back and look at anything not directly part of my daily struggles to survive in current society. When I do look around, half of politics is telling me I’m lazy and the other half is talking about things that don’t affect my daily struggles.
Meanwhile both of the groups say the other is lying all the time and I don’t have the time or energy to look into it before I have to get to bed so I can get up and do it all over again tomorrow. And in the morning, my car breaks down again, and repairing it wipes out the little savings I did manage to have for a while. Now I’m worried that I might be fired because I am late to work again because of car trouble and lack of good public transit options.
Our society has been manufactured over the last 100 years to get people to the point we don’t have the free time or enough money to effectively see what’s happening and fight back without having to completely destroy our lives in the process.
If you put yourself above others, which almost everyone does, then yes, that is the logical conclusion. There is nothing you can do, as everything you do might make it worse for you. So regardless of how obviously better in the grand scheme of things, people do not do it. That is how almost every human “is programmed” and I do not know if we will every get beyond this primitive thinking.
but still kept contempt enough to not make huge riots, and uprisings like with other countries, its just enough for you to not fight the “aristocrats”, of course decades of propaganda helps, because without “being content gets you so far”
That’s handled largely by the lack of ability to take time off. And then there’s wage stagnation. It not only means increased company profits, but on the national scale it helps ensure any people do not make enough money to build up any savings.
They’ve created a very effective system where most don’t have the paid time off from work, can’t afford to call in, and also don’t have the savings to afford the time to find a new job.
the hyperloop scam which he cause cali to be unable to build the fast rail, because it allowed enough time for trumps, Elaine chao to block any kind of funding.
Elon was a dipshit in 2018 yes… So are 90% of CEOs, and 100% of modern “Republicans”. Most just aren’t as publicly vocal because they don’t make themselves the face of their brands. The Republican party hasn’t actually supported their stated viewpoints in decades, and few members of the general public have noticed. They just take what they’re told and allowed the shift.
Being a dipshit is different from actively supporting a fascist takeover of the government. Regardless of what you might want to claim, there is a shift there. You’re an idiot if you can’t see the public shift in the last few years. He may always have been this way,but he wasn’t as vocally and publicly supportive of it. It used to just be shit takes on events for publicity, not the active lead of the country’s destruction.
Do you buy Nestle products? Do you buy anything from Amazon? Do you drive an ICE car and purchase gas for it?
If you do any of these things you’re an evil piece of shit Nazi and deserve to have your possessions burned to nothing (per your logic)
Most current Tesla owners are not MAGAs and bought when they were marketed as a green vehicle.
They should prove it and spraypaint their cars with anti-Elon shit.
Cool story bro.
They can sell. They can trade. If they want to continue to own a Nazi car, they should be prepared for the consequences.
Sell it to whom, Ben?
Fucking aquaman?
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Google says you can sell it to a dealer or a used car service like carmax.
Is that going to be a bit of a hassle? Yeah. You know what else is going to be a bit of a hassle? Needing to pretend you aren’t the gender you are because the government has painted a target on your head for choosing happiness. Or hoping nobody decides to take away the green card you worked your ass off to earn.
And is the value going to be dropping? Yeah. So get on that. Plenty of us are getting on finding ways to emigrate to countries that are less horrifically fucked and speedrunning their way to gilead and we know those slots are gonna dry up. And we are the privileged ones who even have a chance at doing this.
So “it is hard and I might lose a bit of money and it isn’t my fault I couldn’t be bothered to care until now” is a load of horse shit. And people wonder why I, and so many others, just laugh-cry whenever people talk about how this upcoming thing is totally going to flip the switch and get America to riot in the streets.
If you care about being consistent, you should probably smash your computer right now since you used Google, and Google CEOs are on the Trump train too.
All major companies have blood on their hands. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
To my knowledge, only one company’s CEO is publicly heiling hitler and actively destroying a government and killing children by defunding aid programs in a manner that violates the constituion.
And, personally? I do make it a point to avoid giving money to the REALLY bad companies. In a lot of cases that is just not possible because of the late stage capitalism hellscape we live in. But when I have the choice between some Popeyes and some chikfila? One of those companies openly funds MUCH worse things than the other and walking a block farther is, quite frankly, the least I can do.
But, instead, we need to celebrate people supporting evil through apathy and then actively defend them when protests are happening? Y’all were the ones who were talking about how kyle rittenhouse is a bad person but he had a point about being worried about the guy who owned the Target on 5th street, huh?
Because what does this say to our LGBTQ+ friends (assuming everyone involved has some…) or the people being illegally deported and sent to internment camps when the biggest pushback is “Whoa. Your protesting might inconvenience me and is thus bad”?
If you can’t see the difference between protesting in a way that actually hinders fascists, vs making a hitlist of people who fell for positive marketing, then I just can’t help you.
You should go outside and touch some grass friend
Is there a Tesla dealership on top of that grass?
Their comment, unfortunately, seems grounded in reality.
If that is what you think then perhaps you need to go touch some grass as well
Get a better comeback.
This topic is unfortunately a black spot for the lemmy community. The hate boner for musk is so hard, that some people now fail to see that burning other people’s cars is a problem. This kind of behavior can lead to some very bad consequences for people who’s only crime was literally just buying a car. Kinda leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
All of the burned cars that I have seen have been owned by Tesla dealerships. At least people are attacking the company’s property at much greater scale than individual owners.
its mostly trucks and dealerships getting targeted.
The hate boner for musk is so hard, that some people now fail to see that burning other people’s cars is a problem.
So, you’d be ok with someone wearing a Nazi pin, because “It was their grandpa’s”?
Lets just burn all the VW’s too they were literal card carrying Nazi’s. Who cares if it was 80 years ago these new owners should be punished! Driving a car made by a Nazi is driving a car made by a Nazi eh?
We are talking about current behavior, rigjt now. Not 80 years ago…
Simply moronic argument
My arguments are moronic, lol. Hard to believe you can even say that with a straight face. Fine you all want more people to join the other side obviously no argument from anyone is going to change your minds. Enjoy losing this war, whatever. No point in arguing, you are as bad as the MAGA fools when it comes to realizing when you are wrong. Anyone who disagrees with you is obviously wrong no matter what because you just can never be wrong about anything. Damn that sounds familiar.
There is no way that burning random peoples cars is going to do anything except make more people pissed at our side and push more people into Trumps arms. This is one of the stupidest things we could do. Burn the dealerships that is awesome, burn down Musks house even better. Burn down aunt millies Tesla? Pointless and counterproductive. You all sound like a bunch of pissed off teenagers. No logic, just anger.
Im gonna put it this way, I’d be OK with not burning down someones house because their their grandpa was a nazi and they lived in it before. Also, not even remotely comparable, get your head out of your ass.
I feel like a place to live isn’t a fair comparison but if we were to use that, can we burn someone’s house down if they bought their house from a known Nazi, and also knowingly made that Nazi a profit he could use to oppress people?
I’d bet that’s already widespread in America lmao
Yes, I’d be ok with that, especially if they flew nazi flags “To memorialize paw paw”…
Which is basically the same thing as torching other Nazi symbols, like Teslas. Because it’s always acceptable, as a matter of community defense, to destroy Nazi iconography and property. Get your head out of your ass.
What if they were a Nazi because Papa Was a Nazi? Can I burn their house down then? Please tell everybody what’s acceptable. Be the Arbiter for the world. To what level are we allowed to defend ourselves against fascism?
I’m also curious. What’s okay for us to do and why?
Burning some random persons car is not defending yourself from fascism, lol. How stupid can you get? People are mad at Musk so they are trying to burn down anything associated with him. If anything you dumbshits are encouraging people to join the fascist side. You think someone who does not care either way is going to get their car burned by a Musk hater and all of a sudden think “Damn, you know what? Musk really must be a Nazi if someone burned my Tesla. I am going to join the cause~!”
Idiots are making more people join the other side with these misdirected angry outbursts against innocent folks. Especially since most of them bought them back before everyone knew Musk was a crazy Nazi.
