• Hot Saucerman@lemmy.ml
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    I was naively telling myself “So many people hate 11, I doubt adoption has ticked up, and 10 will end up having extensions for support like 7 did, because no one wanted 8.”

    Then I saw the latest Steam Hardware survey. 11 is nearly even with 10 on installs. RIP.

    Glad I’ve been cultivating a love for Linux the last several years and that I dual-boot my main box but run Linux alone on all my other boxes.

    Because this is pushing me into using Linux alone unless there’s a serious need for Windows.

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      Win 11 is going to push me to Linux for my main PC. My current PC doesn’t meet the hardware requirements for Win 11 so I couldn’t run it even if I wanted to.

      The only question is if I’ll need a separate windows machine for gaming.

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        I have never been a big fan of multiplayer competitive games. So thankfully I don’t have to worry about Anti-Cheats, which continues to be the main thing holding back some games working on Linux. At this point most single player or cooperative multiplayer titles that don’t require an anti-cheat work great with Valve’s Proton.

        Also, AMD GPUs work pretty great in Linux. I know they’re not as popular as nVidia, but I’ve had very good functionality from them in Linux.

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        it depends on what games you play. Some online games will not work because of the anticheat, others will require some tweaking and some will not boot at all. This is not very common but it can happen. even more rare is the developer release a new update for a native game and that update contains some windows exclusive dependencies and the game doesn’t start. But most of the times proton works perfectly, even with non-steam games.

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      Steam HW Survey is nice, but not everybody is a gamer. When you look at something more generic like Statcounter, in August Win 10 market share was at 71.94%, while Win 11 was at 23.17%, with 11’s share being pretty much stagnating since May. There’s still some hope

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        Imo it’s going to be large companies and other software vendors that will determine whether or not Microsoft pushes through with this. And based on the software in use in my company, I think it’s likely going to go ahead: specialized software that was explicitly stating that windows 11 was not supported last year, now says that it is.

        New pc’s also come with windows 11 and the users can work with them without major issues. This is unlike windows 8 were the manufacturers themselves returned to windows 7 after windows 8 had already been out some time.

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      i upgraded to windows 11 a few months ago, i cant say i massively regret it but its bad enough that the only thing pushing me away from ubuntu at this point is the absence of some software i use

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        canonical has made some really questionable choices in the past like sending search data to amazon I’d recommend linux mint I use that and it’s really great and it also feels a lot more familiar anyway it’s very reminiscent of windows 7 in some ways

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      Basically I use Windows because of the Adobe suite not having a Linux version or (apparently) not working well in WINE

      Or at least it didn’t the last time I looked into it

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        Your being locked into wondows by being locked into the equally shitty Adobe suite. There are apparently some really good alternatives to Adobe out there. Maybe check them out if you havent already.

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          Depending on their industry it might not be so simple. I know a lot of production houses are built around Adobe, for instance, so it’s premiere or nothing.

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          There are no really good alternatives to Adobe.

          Or at least, while there may be programs that are good enough to keep you from going to Adobe to begin with, those options will not be good enough to satisfy someone that is using Adobe already.

          It is one of the areas that Open Source and Linux lags the most.

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      Well unfortunately if they do not release a new os. I have to go to Linux on my desktop, unless I want to spend 300 dollars on a new CPU.

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    Remember when Microsoft made the bold claim that Windows 10 would be the last OS and reassured us it would just be updated perpetually?

    Like, no one believed them, but to stop supporting Windows 10 after a bold claim like that is just insulting.

    • Fun fact: Lenovo sells some laptops without Windows license too. The amount saved will depend on the laptop and region. Unfortunately this isn’t available for all laptops.

      Example:

      Compatibility image link

      If you’re just buying a laptop/desktop normally, you’re paying this without realizing it.
      In this case, it’s 22.5% of the price.

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        Wish more did that tbh…esp as a tech person who MS and apple ran off with choices they made. Plus I like having more freedom on shiz to customize things more without risk it’ll break that easily(without a major yearly update withstanding but still not as often as windows…)

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        Skimmed the US site. Unless I’m dumb, there’s no Non-Windows Key options on any products other than a Linux-variant that they currently up charge for.

        What a shithole company.

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      Only my main machine runs Windows, my server and my machine running my 3D printers are running Linux (though different flavors)

      My main machine runs Windows primarily due to the Adobe Suite which doesn’t work well with WINE

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        if you have an AMD GPU it will run fine on Linux

        It seems like NVIDIA is technically possible but has severe issues with it though

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          I have a nVidia unfortunately. And the thing I’m more worried about is that my system is running on the edge while playing so I doubt it will run as smooth on Linux.

          On the other hand I am currently looking for a decent ThinkPad and that’s getting a fresh Linux Mint installation.

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    I just rolled back to Win 10 after finally succumbing to the frustration of Win11 running like frozen molasses.

    With a side bonus of Linux Mint 21.2 for good measure. Forgot just how much I enjoyed Mint!

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      Mint has been such a smooth experience for me, as well! I’m glad that Linux gaming is improving, as its one of the few things keeping me using windows. Manjaro is supposedly very beginner friendly, as well.

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        Do not use Manjaro. It is a trap. It is like dating a narcissist.

        At first, it looks and feels great. One day, it will completely turn on you.

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      Interesting 🤔. It’s basically Windows 10 with some change here and there, in performance I personally didn’t notice a difference, maybe it is more noticeable in older computers or something.

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    Can someone get me a link to that image? I’m going to own my first PC in a few days (my CS major requires a lot of stuff that only works on Windows) and I want to use it as a desktop background