• azuth@sh.itjust.works
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    6 days ago

    A company can’t be open source, software can.

    Of that software requires significant infrastructure provided by a company you can’t rely on the overall service. If not you self host or find community implementations.

    There are plenty of untrustworthy Europeans as well, we should not uncritically switch to a European company.

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    7 days ago

    What exactly is Signal supposed to do here?

    They’re not supposed to be able to help in any way, how would they determine if a specific user is using Signal for phishing or whatever without decrypting their chats?

    Being European would make zero difference here, unless the European service is backdoored.

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      7 days ago

      Yay, signal is great because they do everything in their power to not only not spy on you, but not be able to. But boo, they are bad, because they won’t spy on other people for us!

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    7 days ago

    Obviously Telegram is out, sadly Signal is also not exactly shining … where else is there to go though?

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      Like another commenter here said, what did Signal do wrong in this case? We don’t want a third party to be able to see our encrypted messages, or to know who it is who is using the service. Which is desirable when I’m using it, but undesirable when an aggressor is using it. Unfortunately you can’t have one without the other.

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        7 days ago

        Do people have success bringing their families and friends to Matrix? The Signal UI is closer to Whatsapp, which usually made the switch easier

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          I have brought my family to Threema and Signal (when Corona started). But Matrix would not work for them I fear.

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        I love the idea of Threema, but the reason I love it is also precisely why it’s an extremely hard sell for casuals. Self-management of keys.

        It’s also not open source. Sure, the clients are, but the back-end isn’t, and that arguably the most important piece.