• bitchkat@lemmy.world
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        18 days ago

        I’ve been wondering how hilarious it would be if they pulled a Trump and just nope and say Kamala is the president.

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        Didn’t Obama also kick out more illegal immigrants than a bunch of presidents before him? Maybe I’m misremembering, but I do remember nobody giving a shit about illegal immigrants being kicked out. Then Trump came and people freaked out, as if it didn’t happen under Obama as well.

        Shit was weird.

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          Obama was literally known as deporter-in-chief and he deported more in his in either of his terms than Trump did in his four years Source. But be careful some smart ass is probably gonna start screaming you can’t say both sides, and you’re a foreign asset trying to depress the vote because they can’t be bothered to read.

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            From my perspective it was less about the numbers and more about how vocal Trump was about his intentions. Add to that the family separation policy and the STILL MISSING children when he’s a known associate of Epstien there was plenty to be upset about.

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              So you claim that Trump is objectively worse because he was vocal rather than Obama doing it on a muted basis? Despite Obama doing substantially higher numbers? That is definitely some take on these set of facts.

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                No, I’m saying just looking at the numbers doesn’t tell the whole story and intentions also play a large role. Trump wanted to do more than he did but was hindered in many ways. He still did untold damage to our immigration systems and irreparably damaged hundreds of families. It’s really difficult to explain a concept as vast as this without essentially writing a book, and that isn’t my strong suit.

                I’m perfectly okay with Obama also being a bad guy here, but he didn’t publicly dehumanize immigrants and their families. He also didn’t advocate for removing legal residents based solely on their demographic information.

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                  I hate to use this term but you are literally arguing against facts with only feelings; feelings based on comments that arguably amount to mere puffery. My argument is that there is no good guys here, but it appears you are stuck on the point that Trump was worse for undocumented individuals because of feelings, rather than an actual objective measure like numbers.

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                Wow, I have no clue how you thought this fact was enough to argue against “Trump is objectively worse than Obama”.

                Trump is by far, and I mean by an unreal margin, the WORST human being to ever hold the seat of President of the United States of America. There is no debate that Trump is objectively the worst.

                Now sure some people did some things more than others. That’s true for everything. Obama deporting illegal immigrants is nothing like the racism and hatred towards racialized Americans has stoked on the last 8 years. An illegal immigrant KNOWS their number could be up at any time, it’s not a hateful act to legally deport them. But now, EVERY minority in the US, and all women, know their number might get called at any time, and that’s a fear that no lawful citizen deserves.

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            thanks for sharing that. i was not aware of it. it’s particularly brutal that the link is fact checking ron desantis of all people, but i guess it’s not impossible for a republican to say something true on occasion (even if by accident).

            i thought this quote from the link was particularly damning:

            But did Trump deport fewer people than Obama? There are different deportation metrics, and Obama surpassed Trump’s numbers in each one.

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      I don’t follow what you’re implying with this. Can you explain what you mean?

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          My 85 year old German mother-in-law (born in 1939 and moved to Canada around 1960), suggested the same thing.

          (PS I’m an American living in Canada)

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            During his first term at the gym this little old lady was working out on the treadmill next to me and when Kelly Ann Conway came on the tv, she leans over and goes, oh that lady shouldn’t be alive. (paraphrasing to not get banned)

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              Canadian here, the health care is useable. It keeps being underfunded atleast here in Ontario but you can get it with no cost… just be prepared to wait in ER.

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                If you can wait in an ER there are people that have it worse… proper distributed healthcare outside hospitals would dramatically reduce this issue, GPs handle so much that the US handles through emergency rooms.

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        Expand the Supreme Court to 200 people, appoint the most progressive persons out there. Federally legalize marijuana and drop all restrictions on it. Forgive all student and medical debt. Raise the federal minimum wage to $30/hr. Tax all rental income at 4,000%.

        Sure it would probably all get undone before the Toupee hit 100 days in office, but what a sweet couple months that would be.

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    Oh no, those poor wealthy maga merch company owners would have to print something new knowing their cult would feel obligated to buy it?

    Funny in theory but it’d just enrich the grifters. Yeah, the cult members deserve it…but I can’t get behind furthering the wealth divide

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      fwiw she briefly had presidential powers a couple years ago when Biden was sedated for a medical procedure. Source.

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          The funny thing is reading the source article, when Trump had the same procedure, he didn’t make Pence the acting president because he didn’t trust Pence with presidential powers for even an hour.

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      Sadly its also how Canada got it’s first and only woman prime minister.

      Campbell became the new prime minister in June 1993 after Mulroney resigned in the wake of declining popularity. In the 1993 Canadian federal election in October of that year, the Progressive Conservatives were decimated, losing all but two seats from a previous majority, with Campbell losing her own. Her 132-day premiership is the third-shortest in Canadian history.[a]

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Campbell

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    It’s honestly the least he could do. Sure he was a good president with good policies but keeping your head down and fixing things that the GOP are only going to claim credit for isn’t helpful at the moment. The DNC has managed to turn decades of good will and evaporate it into nothing. So yes, giving us this small inconsequential win would not be too big of an ask.

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    could she, with the scrotus ruled immunity, void the election and have trump and his team arrested for treason?

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      One step further. Declare he was in fact as stated president in exile and Biden was never president and thusly he cannot run for a third term.

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    I was thinking this too. Except he should do it right before Thanksgiving, so Kamala’s fist job as president is pardon the turkeys.

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    And by the time they made it they’d have to pay tariffs on it 😂