• Mossy Feathers (They/Them)@pawb.social
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    10 hours ago

    I mean, this is a pretty normal distinction afaik (human vs non-human creations; afaik non-human creations almost always have any human copyright claims voided when challenged).

    Imo what makes this special is how precise he’s being. If I understand correctly, he’s basically saying that the code for the health bar is a human creation and protected by copyright, but while the code to change the health value might be human-made, the actual values are machine-made and not under copyright (there’s probably a lot of nuance I’m skipping over, but my understanding is that’s the gist of it).

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      2 hours ago

      Well, I think both are human creation, you are using the machine and the game to create something new. In that sense, a save game file could also be under the players copyright. Lets say a Minecraft world for instance.

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        1 hour ago

        What this is saying is that the Minecraft world would not be under copyright, but anything the player built in that world would be. So you can’t copyright the world itself, but you can copyright any human-made constructions in that world.

        This is wholly preferable to the alternative options which could result in things like being able to copyright AI-generated works (applying his logic to AI, they’re basically saying you can copyright any edits to an AI-gen image, but not the image itself because that was AI-gen).

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          56 minutes ago

          I meant minecraft world file which stores the chunks the player explored and potentially modified. And I said “could” not “must”, it depends on if hits a certain creative threshold.

          If the player decides to teleport around while creating a dickbud or whatever by just the explored chunks, that could meet it.

          If someone selectivly openes quests to use the open quest markers on a map in an RPG to create a dickbud, that cloud meet it as well.

          The save game could tell your individual story through the game, that cloud meet the threshold as well.

          Also, because the unmodified minecraft world is randomly generated, it would not be under anyones copyright.

          With AI, there could also be made an argument that the selection process might make it copyrightable. Like if you take a picture of a interesting looking cloud. The clouds might be semi-random, but you selecting a specific one reaches the threshold.

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      8 hours ago

      What if the health values are human creations like special symbols or works of creative art?

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          7 hours ago

          I mean what if you didn’t use 20/100 for the value, you used a symbol (in the code as the value). Would it still apply?