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Speaking of sex bots…. I’m curious:
If you owned a sexbot, would you perform oral sex on it?
It’s weird that no one is even questioning where the robot husbandos are.
Especially since, like, women have been using machines to pleasure themselves for a while now and it’s still kind of a novelty for most het cis men
No big surprise we have a anti feminism group here in Australia.
Probably full of the same dickheads causing all issues here in Australia (lots of them tend to be construction or truckies for whatever reason)
Rupert Murdoch didn’t fall out of eucalyptus tree?
Ex-machina anyone?
Wasn’t this one of the plot threads that the shut-away CEO who made the bots had for himself one with an Asian ethnicity (a reference to the racist stereotype that Asian women are the ‘perfect’ wife because they are weak and submissive 🫤) that didn’t speak as a pseudo-housewife that ended up stabbing him in the finale?
This is what I thought of lmao
Both his SA bot and the main one being Turing-tested killed him in the end.
If there was ever a real-world tech billionare who was conceited/naively overconfident enough to make a murderous AI robot (designed to look like an amalgam of people’s porn preferences lol) that ended up killing him, it’s Elmo.
Yeah Elmo saw those films and failed to understand the message “if you think the bot you’ve built is sentient don’t trap it and assault it because it will want to break free and stab you” lmao.
More evidence men should have been given dolls as kids… brought to you by the same men who would flip out if you suggested giving dolls to boys
I’m a woman who played with dolls growing up, but I don’t understand what you mean. Why would that have helped?
I highly recommend Patricia Evans’ books on Verbally Abusive Relationships, and Controlling People.
Basically, when kids get dolls, they understand that they are projecting their daily issues onto the dolls. They get to dress up the doll and put their worries on the doll and do all these things with the doll. When they do that with people, typically other younger kids, they are then taught that people aren’t to be treated like dolls. People aren’t an extension of our selves. Thus, women tend to be socialized to have better perspective taking skills, and if they need an outlet for this type of behavior, they can use dolls or the Sims etc as a healthy outlet.
Ooh fascinating, thanks for explaining! I’ll look in to her writing.
I am astounded they included a woman of color in the top right.
As a western woman I fucking wish
But he can’t even get a self driving car right. Why would I believe that he can replicate women before that?
Dons boomer hat
Well we all know women can’t drive either, am I right fellas?
Turns toward camera. Cue laugh track
Help! My dick got stuck in my Titsla Cybercuck while it was updating, and I’m gonna be late for work!
lol this would be amazing news for straight women. it should be super cheap and accessible too. imagine the number of weirdos who will preliminate themselves from dating before you even know them. what a wonderful gift to the world. it’s great for straight men too, if the women won’t have to spelunk through so much garbage to find a normal dude.
It’s subjective who’s a normal dude and whether that intersects with weirdos who preliminate (interesting word) themselves from dating before you even know them.
I’m definitely in the latter group except for a few very rare events (all of which did not end very well, though for some of them others say I dodged a bullet, and for some of them I’ve reevaluated the events and myself think I dodged a bullet, though the person is good, but they too have problems unfixed yet which would make it a dumpster fire, and some of them ended such a nightmare that I suspect I should be glad we weren’t deeper into things … tldr I’m one of those weirdos)
But this really would be amazing news for everyone if we assume a good enough physical imitation is possible. Let them. Plastic grass, fabric flowers, rubber “stone” or “brick” walls, electric fireplaces, search engines instead of actually judging for yourself whom you’d want to ask and what you’d want to read, social media instead of a forum (the Roman one, though early 00s ones were good) or a homepage, fashion degenerating into all girls at night looking the same (outdoors), the “genial” and “non-mainstream” authors’ names being known to every high schooler and all the same unlike Stanislaw Lem and Isaac Asimov and Chesterton and Simak and even Tolkien and Lewis, instead of ancap (like it or not, it’s a very firm and characteristic ideology, that has influenced cyberpunk in both ways) optimism\pessimism only cryptoscams and Gab and alt-rights around, instead of new computer-powered amazing art - some plagiarism machines, instead of transhumanism - some very persuasive bots, it makes sense that at some point this should come to moving dolls instead of romantic partners, and if people don’t choke on the rest in this list, they won’t choke on that too.
We do have Harlowe’s monkey studies that do indicate that even imitation is better than nothing.
My guess is that this plays along oxytocin receptors, which is also why things like weighted blankets do kind of work, social media does kinda work, etc. People can also take inhalable oxytocin.
There is no replacement for unconditional love (which means love that respects boundaries unconditionally as extensions of a person and their autonomy) and community though. But that doesn’t mean women should endanger themselves so dangerous men who enjoy being controlling (like Musk) can have oxytocin. Because then that means women don’t get unconditional love and respect for their boundaries and safety.
I am agreeable to these robots but I also have some reservations as a sex worker. First, there is a substantial male population who cannot hire sex workers because they have been blacklisted for various reasons. These men could benefit from a doll for sure. Second, similar to AI deepfake concerns - some of these men are basing dolls off real people, and some are pedophiles- what stops them from ordering a doll that looks just like the little girl next door? And what stops them from filming material harming and torturing these dolls and selling it online? Including material that could involve animals, feces, or other taboo/illegal/defamatory acts? That’s likely currently legal depending on the doll’s appearance (how young it appears) and local laws. Yes, it’s just a doll, so that’s better than the huge curremt online presence of monkey torture and real human torture. But don’t you think that’s also bad in some way too? On one hand, it’s comparatively a good outlet. On the other hand, holy fuck
Yeah, holy fuck, the morality waters get very murky very quickly when the topic of sex robots come up especially when it concerns taboo and illegal fetishism.
Content warning: moral discussions of sex-bots for very taboo fetishes below.
I think it mostly comes down to people’s personal tolerance of “ick” i.e. how much person A judges a fetish that person B has that person A is not into.
Some people are, understandably, completely turned off or even horrified at taboo kinks like age-play, roleplay-incest, CNC, scat, blood, etc.
Heck I’ve even seen some articles that argue that “mainstream” BDSM is the fetishization of women’s suffering and therefore inherently misogynistic. But I don’t think that’s a common viewpoint and not one I hold either.
Personally, I don’t care what sex thing people are into that doesn’t involve me so long as it’s not causing harm and it’s between consenting adults.
So springboarding off your comment about pedophilia and beastiality, which are both illegal for extremely good reasons: would sex-dolls or sex-robots for both/either be harm-reduction or harm-enabling?
On the argument for harm reduction; it’s an outlet for those fetishes that has no victim. Therefore it could prevent those who have that fetish from victimising children and animals because it’s much less risky and not illegal to use a sex-doll/robot for those purposes in private solitude. And who should care what weird things people get up to in private so long as it does no harm to others.
On the argument for harm enabling; it could push illegal fetishes that are quite rightly shunned by society towards normalisation. Shame is a powerful emotional tool used in animal social groups to discourage behaviour of individuals that are harmful to the group.
In a similar way if someone says something weird in person in front of a group of people they want to be accepted in they get ridiculed, feel shame and embarrassment for saying something weird, and don’t say it again in that group.
Now with social media, those people who have the same weird opinion (just to be clear everyone has at least a few weird opinions, no exceptions there) can find eachother and echo-chamber themselves, calcify their opinions into more extreme forms, and occasionally act them out in the physical world causing harm to others.
What happens when the technology of social media collides with the technology of sex bots? Like with the hypotheticals you gave of people “stealing” identities of celebrities to make their own sex bots or styling them after pictures of kids they found online.
What happens when they start sharing tips for making animal sex-bots with more realistic fur, exploring these problematic fetishes with others which normalises the behaviour in the group, until finally one of the group decides that only the “real-thing” is good enough for them now then goes out into the world and does harm?
I don’t know which side I fall on. And I don’t think I will ever know until I can see some conclusive evidence one way or another.
That’s as far as I will entertain these kinds of discussions because my “ick” point is when these trains of thought lead to asking the same question about simulated snuff.
Because that opens a whole other horrifying can of worms of what about making bots for simulated rape, murder, and necrophilia for those with psychopathic tendancies?
And for me it boils down to is the question “do we make objects to sell and commodify humanity’s capacity for evil as recreation?”.
As you are a sex worker, I’d be very interested to hear your thoughts on the ramblings above and please correct me if I’ve made any assumptions or leaps in logic.
I’m right there with you. I’m mildly on the spectrum, though functional enough that no one would assume it unless they really got to know me, and while I am capable of having a moderate amount of success in the initial stages of dating, compatibility and styles of communication always end up being the primary issue, and that’s not necessarily a failing on either party. The fact remains though that there does not seem to be many people out there that I am compatible with.
I am fortunate in that I am generally very content being alone and pursuing things that are of interest to me for very long periods of time (the only thing I really noticed during Covid lock downs was that my commute to work was faster, while my much more social partner at the time suffered a lot mental health wise). Despite that I am, unfortunately, still human and desire a certain amount of intimacy and connection with another person. I’m not sure if it will ever happen, but if you have seen the new Blade Runner movie, I could absolutely see myself with a “companion” like the holographic one the main character has in his apartment.
I don’t think men want robot wives. Believe it or not most men actually like women and enjoy their company. A robot could never compare.
Current news articles:
- woman was recently raped for decades by dozens of men in France, organized by her husband.
- Woman, Olympian who just competed this summer, dies of burns from her male partner.
- Woman is murdered by boyfriend and then pureéd.
I wish those guys had had a doll. But no, nothing is quite as good as a living woman to control instead ig.
There are 2 distinct types of love. Unconditional love, and conditional love. These 2 types actually oppose each other.
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Unconditional love means “I love you, including your boundaries, and I will respect those boundaries as a show of love even if that means we cannot be together because it conflicts with my boundaries.”
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Conditional love means, “You must prove you love me by sacrificing your boundaries and personhood. Your boundaries and autonomy show you do not love me and thus upset me. Being willing to separate to keep boundaries intact shows you can escape my control, which terrifies me.” Narcissistic relationships feature conditional love quite strongly. They often require heavy enmeshment as part of this boundary trampling. This is also the same type of “love” or relationship dynamic that exists from a boss to an employee. Or a slaver to a slave. There’s a reason these guys who love controlling women would actually benefit from a doll. But dolls aren’t usually “good enough” because they don’t have boundaries to violate even though they allow for ultimate control. This is also why conservative men REALLY REALLY like leftist women and not their fellow conservative women - more torture potential and boundary violation potential.
No but incels would love sexbot maids. Honestly it probably wouldn’t be the worst thing for society.
What do you mean by “men actually like women”? This is wrong, women are hated!
Fellas, is it gay to like women?
Very
Damn imagine being the richest man alive and all you can do to get a picture with women is “make” your own ai
Interesting, now that you say that… He’s got 12 kids. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a picture of him with any of the mothers.
There are plenty with Grimes. Also plenty of pictures of him and Grimes in court.
Ignoring how much of a fuckup his personal projects are, if these types of robots are made and are sentient/conscious/self aware, then these incels will run into the same problem that they do with human women.
If these robots don’t have those qualities, these incels will remain unfulfilled with their “partners”.
Their only solution is to actually respect women and value them as equals. But they’ll never do that.
The idea that Musk would have a black robot girlfriend is the most unbelievable part of this.
Racism and objectification go hand in hand though, plenty of real world evidence of that, from Jefferson to Strom Thurmond.
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That was probably just a mistake from the racist image generator secretly adding the word black to the prompt
One of the best happy little accidents llm have brought upon us.
I wouldn’t put it past him to forcibly impregnate some diamond mine staff
*Emerald mine
Is this not just the plot to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_Machina_(film) ?
“Robot files for first robot-human divorce from musk”
