Biden could pretty much guarantee a win tomorrow by announcing that it has been determined that Israel is indeed committing war crimes, followed by cutting support for them as per the Law when the recipient of help is committing such crimes, ideally followed by sanctions.
My favorite part is where no amount of evidence that the US electorate doesn’t actually back this idea up doesn’t stop Very Serious Leftists™ from parroting it over and over and over again.
Ah, an Ad Hominen: hadn’t seen one of those in at least 5 minutes.
How about you address my point that Biden isn’t willing to abdicate just one of his principles (support for Zionism, which is not even an especially moral one) to “Stop Trump” whilst sending peons of his tribe around demanding that millions abdicate their principles (and Humanist ones, which are about the most Moral principles one can have) and vote for him - somebody supporting an ongoing Genocide - to “Stop Trump”.
Ah, an Ad Hominen: hadn’t seen one of those in at least 5 minutes.
An Ad Hominem, clearly, is when you claim that the evidence doesn’t back a talking point up, and the more you claim the evidence doesn’t back a talking point up, the more Ad Hominem it is.
doesn’t stop Very Serious Leftists™ from parroting it over and over and over again.
Mind you the cartoon is already heavilly Red Scare “anybody that disagrees is a Communist” so I’m not suprised with the whole implying that I’m a “commie” for disagreing with your political tribe.
By the way, you’re still refusing to answer the question of why Biden won’t do himself what he demands from others…
doesn’t stop Very Serious Leftists™ from parroting it over and over and over again.
Wait a minute - does ‘ad hominem’, to you, mean ‘someone said something mean about me’?
Is that what you’re saying?
By the way, you’re still refusing to address my point about why Biden won’t do what he demands from others…
About why he won’t give up ‘a principle’ that is currently popular amongst the majority of Americans, including a majority of Democrats, to appeal to a minority of voters, who are not even particularly reliable voters at that?
Huh. I guess it’s a mystery why a politician in a democratic system wouldn’t do that.
All of them are similar to the general scheme of ad hominem argument, that is instead of dealing with the essence of someone’s argument or trying to refute it, the interlocutor is attacking the character of the proponent of the argument and concluding that it is a sufficient reason to drop the initial argument.
Don’t worry, sweetheart, I addressed your argument just fine; that you want to play tone police is on you. :)
Now you’re ad-homineming me as if I was that other guy you were having a fight with. If your refutation is sound, why do you need to attack someone’s character anyway?
Your point is wrong, Biden isn’t a Zionist and if he pulled funding for Israel unilaterally, it would help him with youth vote but hurt him with other groups potentially, and GOP would pivot to claiming to be the only friend of Israel, blah blah blah.
May i remind you that according to pew surveys, 60% of Americans still feel like Israel’s war is valid and legitimate, even if some of those people say Israel is being too harsh.
The truth is that your viewpoint is very outside of the mainstream, and if Biden did it, and it might lose him political support on the whole and might not even stick–GOP would try to overturn this and force spending support to Israel, even if at that point just as an attack on Biden, who dipshits like you would still blame if his order to stop Israeli military support was overturned.
There, your point has been addressed, it is shit and counterproductive.
If the majority of this country leans fascist and supports genocide (so long as they are sufficiently convinced the people we bomb or help bomb are evil enough), we will end up with fascism even if it isn’t trump. If genocide is the popular opinion and Biden risks losing the election if he reversed course, we have bigger issues in this country than president. A president might sign fascist laws, but local fascists enact them, and I know which one of them is more likely to kill me. Hell, local fascists might kill me even if biden wins. We have a fascism problem in this country and a huge group of voters being willing to overlook genocide is just a symptom.
I also love how they act like Biden is in charge of conflict in the middle east and wars being waged by other nations and is just choosing to be a comic book villain that likes genocide. Its such a fucking child’s interpretation of international relations. Biden is in an incredibly hard spot that he didn’t choose, and all these assholes act like he is in charge while also 50% of the time ignoring or making excuses for Hamas’s role. Like, they literally have more scorn for Biden than Hamas.
My favorite part is where no amount of evidence that the US electorate doesn’t actually back this idea up doesn’t stop Very Serious Leftists™ from parroting it over and over and over again.
Ah, an Ad Hominen: hadn’t seen one of those in at least 5 minutes.
How about you address my point that Biden isn’t willing to abdicate just one of his principles (support for Zionism, which is not even an especially moral one) to “Stop Trump” whilst sending peons of his tribe around demanding that millions abdicate their principles (and Humanist ones, which are about the most Moral principles one can have) and vote for him - somebody supporting an ongoing Genocide - to “Stop Trump”.
An Ad Hominem, clearly, is when you claim that the evidence doesn’t back a talking point up, and the more you claim the evidence doesn’t back a talking point up, the more Ad Hominem it is.
Mind you the cartoon is already heavilly Red Scare “anybody that disagrees is a Communist” so I’m not suprised with the whole implying that I’m a “commie” for disagreing with your political tribe.
By the way, you’re still refusing to answer the question of why Biden won’t do himself what he demands from others…
Wait a minute - does ‘ad hominem’, to you, mean ‘someone said something mean about me’?
Is that what you’re saying?
About why he won’t give up ‘a principle’ that is currently popular amongst the majority of Americans, including a majority of Democrats, to appeal to a minority of voters, who are not even particularly reliable voters at that?
Huh. I guess it’s a mystery why a politician in a democratic system wouldn’t do that.
I guess we’ll never know.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
Don’t worry, sweetheart, I addressed your argument just fine; that you want to play tone police is on you. :)
Now you’re ad-homineming me as if I was that other guy you were having a fight with. If your refutation is sound, why do you need to attack someone’s character anyway?
People who come into the middle of a fight and are surprised they got punched are the worse.
In case you can’t read between the lines, that means you
Your point is wrong, Biden isn’t a Zionist and if he pulled funding for Israel unilaterally, it would help him with youth vote but hurt him with other groups potentially, and GOP would pivot to claiming to be the only friend of Israel, blah blah blah.
May i remind you that according to pew surveys, 60% of Americans still feel like Israel’s war is valid and legitimate, even if some of those people say Israel is being too harsh.
The truth is that your viewpoint is very outside of the mainstream, and if Biden did it, and it might lose him political support on the whole and might not even stick–GOP would try to overturn this and force spending support to Israel, even if at that point just as an attack on Biden, who dipshits like you would still blame if his order to stop Israeli military support was overturned.
There, your point has been addressed, it is shit and counterproductive.
Biden has called himself a Zionist…
If the majority of this country leans fascist and supports genocide (so long as they are sufficiently convinced the people we bomb or help bomb are evil enough), we will end up with fascism even if it isn’t trump. If genocide is the popular opinion and Biden risks losing the election if he reversed course, we have bigger issues in this country than president. A president might sign fascist laws, but local fascists enact them, and I know which one of them is more likely to kill me. Hell, local fascists might kill me even if biden wins. We have a fascism problem in this country and a huge group of voters being willing to overlook genocide is just a symptom.
I also love how they act like Biden is in charge of conflict in the middle east and wars being waged by other nations and is just choosing to be a comic book villain that likes genocide. Its such a fucking child’s interpretation of international relations. Biden is in an incredibly hard spot that he didn’t choose, and all these assholes act like he is in charge while also 50% of the time ignoring or making excuses for Hamas’s role. Like, they literally have more scorn for Biden than Hamas.