• umbrella@lemmy.ml
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      8 months ago

      i mean they are part of the PRISM program like google, microsoft and others, as revealed by snowden back when he leaked it. they are doing some questionable mass image hash scanning in the name of “protecting the children” now too. i’m sure you can find more bullshit by simply reading their TOS.

      honestly its very safe to assume every single stock firmware, on every device is compromised unless its FOSS. this includes cars, tvs and everything in between.

      the single major advantage of android in this respect is that you can change the OS that comea with it. i think its the only real way to use phones semi privately now.

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        8 months ago

        Okay well now we’re talking about leaked government documents…

        Which comes with a whole different set of rules including mechanisms like false info. Specifically, tactics like misdirection (to sway public opinion against good-guys, perhaps like apple, while still not lying about any bad guys involved, a proverbial shit bomb which makes everyone appear guilty)

        Not sure why Apple would be so public in fighting against the cia/fbi regarding giving them a way into your phone if they were already letting them in lmao.

        What sense does that make?

        I do, however think that hardware should be open-sourced and heavily subsidized from a career standpoint for pen testers so that we can have standardized and vetted hardware which can run Apples flavor or androids, etc. This is however pretty far out from my realm of knowledge so I can’t speak to likelihood or anything like that.

        Just know we agree on your very last point

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          8 months ago

          i dont care what their PR department is saying, or making it look. in fact its the very last thing i care, their actions speak louder.

          if you want to think apple devices are not spying on you because of reasons you are free to do so, im not gonna argue that.

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            8 months ago

            You didn’t answer my question

            Why would apple openly fight the govt on this?

            If we can’t trust anything you see or hear how do you plan to cope with reality? Nothings believable? Seriously? Good luck dude.

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              8 months ago

              so im crazy now?

              if you want to know i suggest you inform yourself of their business decisions, not their PR talk.

              otherwise being a fanboy is not healthy.