• viking
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    8 months ago

    It’s blocked here in China. If the Spanish really want, they’ll find a way.

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      8 months ago

      You really can’t compare any other country to the Great Firewall of China.

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        8 months ago

        Hasn’t the Great Firewall been in place for as long as China had internet, or was there a period where they had full access to the Internet? Yea if it has that’s what 20/30 years of development lmao

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          8 months ago

          If you can circumvent it, it’s not blocked.

          Given this seems to bizarrely be a copyright thing, it’s going to fail at its intended goal immediately—pirates typically don’t mind jumping through a hoop to get stuff for free.

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            8 months ago

            So if you can drive faster than the speedlimit, there’s no speedlimit. …

            Its blocked no matter if some can circumvent it or not. You are discussing the effectiveness of the block that you argue is not there

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              8 months ago

              If someone intends to block traffic on a road using a road block, and puts the block mostly on the pavement next to the road, the block is there but it’s not blocking any cars.

              An ineffective block does not block what it’s supposed to, it’s still a block, it’s just not blocking anything.

              We might be getting into philosophy here though

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      8 months ago

      If you can reach any sites like this, you could reach telegram if you wanted to badly enough.

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        8 months ago

        Sites like what? Lemmy isn’t blocked.

        And sure, I can use a VPN, but that’s also illegal. So I can definitely break one law to break another, no problem.

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          8 months ago

          Telegram doesn’t use vpns to bypass access restrictions. There have been multiple attempts to block/ban telegram and they inevitably fail because of the way the internet is designed. And as I said. If you have access to the greater internet you can probably access telegram but I am guessing you don’t use it and didn’t use it before the ban so you have no need to try to access it now.

          Telegram uses proxies and has a setting in the app to attempt to work around blockages.

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            8 months ago

            No, what I’m saying is that I can use a VPN to access telegram. Their proxy service doesn’t work in China, I have been using it since the initial public beta release some 10 years ago and keep using it ever since. Neither the official client nor Telegram X for that matter. Signal’s “bypass blockage” function hardly works either, by the way. It’s VPN or bust here.