Over the last 48 hours, Roku has slowly been rolling out a mandatory update to its terms of service. In this terms it changes the dispute resolution terms but it is not clear exactly why. When the new terms and conditions message shows up on a Roku Player or TV, your only option is to […]

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    9 months ago

    Lmao.

    Can’t wait for all the ewaste this will fucking generate just to save this companies theoretic ass in a theoretical lawsuit which will likely end in consumers producing a lawsuit anyway on top of the ewaste it’ll create.

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        9 months ago

        Yeah, I just agreed because one sided bullshit being added to something I already own lets me continue to use it until whatever they added even comes up and someone else might sue them in the meantime because ever changing terms of service are not enforceable.

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        9 months ago

        His post is right on par with all the people that swore up and down that the password crackdown of Netflix was going to be their downfall.

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        9 months ago

        Additional ewaste is still additional. Regardless of amount, we’re talking about necessity and rate.

        If I got this I’d be returning my tv as soon as possible but I know better and so do my friends and family because I talk about this stuff with them when stories like this come up or they bring it up

        Most people, yes will likely just click ok and not think anything of it because they don’t see these spies physically in their windows, but I’m still not happy about the decision and the extra ewaste it will thus, proportionally, cause right now

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          I read through the whole fucking thing, considered posting it to Lemmy a day or two ago, even considered comparing it to other stream box thingies, and just decided it wasn’t worth it. This fight isn’t going to end because TheFartographer chose to change platforms.

          At this point, I know we’re losing and I’m getting really tired of carrying the torch. Ultimately, if I swapped all of our Rokus to anything else, I’d have to deal with my wife being upset that “having a smart house was supposed to be easy, why do you even care about suing Roku?”

          Unfortunately, we’re not all as oblivious as you seem to think we are. Some of us have just resigned to failure and are letting the steamroller finally run us over. For some stupid reason, I’m doing it with my eyes wide open.

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            9 months ago

            “There’s no way just I will be able to solve this therefore nobody should try”

            Am I right in understanding this logic? Sounds kinda narcissistic and pessimistic imo. Not sure I’d subscribe to giving up because some people will take their frustrations with an industry out on the preverbal ex-cave dweller.

            You’ve stepped out into the sunshine, you’ve bore witness to the truth outside of the cave in all it’s maddening glory and now you want to try to convince people who are clearly comfortable being strapped in that cave, stuck staring at mere shadows cast by the sun outside. Maybe try to help get people unchained first and walking around before you try to explain the sun to them

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              No no no, you misunderstand. I will wholeheartedly support anyone willing to try in any way that I can. I’m tired and I’m just trying to pass the torch.

              My point was that some of us have done what we can and are now just painfully yet knowingly accepting shitty terms. I’m not telling anyone else to stop, I’m just asking to acknowledge that some of us need a break without being called willfully ignorant. If you’re still willing to fight, tell me what I can sign, who I can harass, or what I can adopt without pissing off my wife. Until then, I’m just gonna read the contract and then regretfully click “I agree” because I’m too tired to keep doing the research myself.

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                9 months ago

                I don’t mean to offend but we will have to agree to disagree. I don’t think googling these things or tapping into mainstream news sources that educate on this stuff (the stuff you spend 50% of your life doing or interacting with) is too much to ask. I do think it’s lazy but I can certainly sympathize with your frustration. You do not have to purchase a smart tv to watch multiple streaming services. There is a plethora of resources out there that you could easily (and even with speech to text) ask for help with and be inundated with advice, strategy, and procedure.

                Your mindset is your own and mine is as my own.

                Some won’t care about other peoples problems until they are their own. The decision to be proactive in your life in the face of failure and difficulty isn’t something I can preach or force into anyone’s head. That’s something you gotta do on your own.

                Your journey isn’t my business, so there is no real judgment here from me, I’m just explaining how I see things from my side of the fence through my stained glass window.

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                  9 months ago

                  I truly admire your outlook and appreciate your perspective. For a moment there, I almost felt a spark of motivation. I’m gonna bookmark your comment and return to it from time to time and see how my feelings change. Who knows, you might have said just the right thing to get me back to refusing to constantly dine on corporate shit.

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                    9 months ago

                    There’s just a lot of people out there that love fighting this shit and make it accessible for everyone else. I wanna make sure those people aren’t forgotten about or neglected that’s all.

                    It’s a pretty cool world if you just keep lookin

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        9 months ago

        I heard you have to have the original remote to confirm the EULA, if you are using a different one it won’t click through and you are stuck.