No, I don’t want to see that brainwashing garbage. It’s curated to wreck the brains and society of Western democracies.
Everyone should have heard about this by now, but China’s version of TikTok is vastly different than ours. It is limited to mostly educational content and has built-in screen time limits. They know what is bad about our version of it, and it’s on purpose.
I’m not in TikTok or anything but isn’t that something China would of course do? Like they are trying to push their app to a country that loves FREEDOM. Why would they limit content based on their controls in place in their country?
You can go ahead and point out where I mentioned Lemmy in my prior comment. But I will address that now, and of course TikTok is not better than Lemmy.
But what my prior comment was about is that the content from TikTok is unhealthy for the mind. Therefore Lemmy should not host it at all.
I already downvote the porn posts that are just dancing hoes from TikTok. Or anything with that watermark on it. Everyone who cares about mental health and reducing propaganda and misinformation should join me in doing so.
There are a few reasons I can think of that Lemmy is a better platform than ticktock.
ticktock uses an algorithm to drive engagement and keep users on the platform for as long as possible, recommending posts that it thinks the user will like or hate. Lemmy doesn’t do this.
I’ve never actually used ticktock so I’m not sure if it’s possible to block content in the same way but the ability to block users, communities, and entire instances is I think one of Lemmy’s best features.
there are no ads on lemmy.
Now for the content in question, my understanding is that it’s entirely user generated. Just like Lemmy, reddit, YouTube, Etc. It’s not like the Chinese government is making American women film themselves dancing and then forcing them to post it on ticktock. That’s just what that person wanted to make and post and ticktocks algorithm is recommending it.
With that being said, there are potentially useful, funny, or important content that might be uploaded to ticktock by a user, the same way that girl dancing video was. If that happened, wouldn’t make sense to move that content to a platform without many of the down sides of the ticktock platform?
Yeah but they’re just distracting from the domestic surveillance that is oppressively bad. I’ve never seen a compelling argument TikTok is somehow more dangerous to use than Facebook. At least for a US Citizen with no family in China. But you go out explaining how you’ll assassinate Xi on any platform they could send somebody to take you out. Anyone who trusts any company or government with their data is naive.
I think it’s more in that each platform has their differences as far as consumption, and possible behavior setting/modification, in which they’re both detrimental. It’s not secret that algorithms are used to keep the user engaged, and that so-called ragebait is a huge engagement driver. Facebook is somewhat of a link aggregator meets microblogging (ie status updates), while tiktok just feeds an endless loop of short videos. I would imagine (though I don’t have stats or sources) that videos keep people glued to their screens more effectively (easier than reading), and could be more troubling.
I think you don’t really grasp the concept of a hivemind, where users of a platform tend to have collective set of views deemed acceptable and unacceptable by the community. It doesn’t necessarily make them wrong, it just means that it is a view or opinion that runs contrary to that of the community. Reddit was a shit show for that (and I know you came from there due to your use of karma), and Lemmy has it too. The entire purpose of the up vote/downvote system is to increase/decrease comment ranking based on users perception of comment quality, though people tend to use it to show disapproval (as you did with my previous comment). There is no "normal’ when it comes to this, as it is entirely dependent on the instance and subcommunity’s collective views.
Furthermore, let me introduce you to the actual definition of gaslighting, per Merriam Webster:
1
: psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one’s emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator
2
: the act or practice of grossly misleading someone especially for one’s own advantage
What if there were a service to convert ticktock videos into Lemmy posts? Would that be a good thing?
No, I don’t want to see that brainwashing garbage. It’s curated to wreck the brains and society of Western democracies.
Everyone should have heard about this by now, but China’s version of TikTok is vastly different than ours. It is limited to mostly educational content and has built-in screen time limits. They know what is bad about our version of it, and it’s on purpose.
I’m not in TikTok or anything but isn’t that something China would of course do? Like they are trying to push their app to a country that loves FREEDOM. Why would they limit content based on their controls in place in their country?
Look at how their app captures every keystroke of every user, and you’ll have your answer.
I’m not asking if any platform is better than Lemmy.
I’m asking if it would be good to facilitate the ability to post the user generated content from a terrible platform to Lemmy.
No. That’d be like having your family owned restaurant cook Mr Beast burgers.
Wouldn’t it be more like having your family owned restaurant cook dishes using user posted recipes from food.com?
It’s user generated content in both analogies. It’s still valid content no matter which platform it was originally posted too.
If a Lemmy user posts a ticktock video to Lemmy then how would it be different then a Lemmy user posting a YouTube video to Lemmy?
You can go ahead and point out where I mentioned Lemmy in my prior comment. But I will address that now, and of course TikTok is not better than Lemmy.
But what my prior comment was about is that the content from TikTok is unhealthy for the mind. Therefore Lemmy should not host it at all.
I already downvote the porn posts that are just dancing hoes from TikTok. Or anything with that watermark on it. Everyone who cares about mental health and reducing propaganda and misinformation should join me in doing so.
There are a few reasons I can think of that Lemmy is a better platform than ticktock.
Now for the content in question, my understanding is that it’s entirely user generated. Just like Lemmy, reddit, YouTube, Etc. It’s not like the Chinese government is making American women film themselves dancing and then forcing them to post it on ticktock. That’s just what that person wanted to make and post and ticktocks algorithm is recommending it.
With that being said, there are potentially useful, funny, or important content that might be uploaded to ticktock by a user, the same way that girl dancing video was. If that happened, wouldn’t make sense to move that content to a platform without many of the down sides of the ticktock platform?
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I would like inane content. I will not be installing tiktok, but I would click it on it on lemmy
You are well beyond reefer madness levels of fear and paranoia.
This was verified by a number of independent researchers. 60 Minutes even did a full segment on it.
Yeah but they’re just distracting from the domestic surveillance that is oppressively bad. I’ve never seen a compelling argument TikTok is somehow more dangerous to use than Facebook. At least for a US Citizen with no family in China. But you go out explaining how you’ll assassinate Xi on any platform they could send somebody to take you out. Anyone who trusts any company or government with their data is naive.
I think it’s more in that each platform has their differences as far as consumption, and possible behavior setting/modification, in which they’re both detrimental. It’s not secret that algorithms are used to keep the user engaged, and that so-called ragebait is a huge engagement driver. Facebook is somewhat of a link aggregator meets microblogging (ie status updates), while tiktok just feeds an endless loop of short videos. I would imagine (though I don’t have stats or sources) that videos keep people glued to their screens more effectively (easier than reading), and could be more troubling.
This user is a troll, so you can safely ignore them
You’re better off pointing out where they said inaccurate things than just saying “troll!”
Look at their comment history
I don’t see any overly trolly comments. What’d they say?
They have over -2000 karma and I’ve seen them in a multitude of threads just snidely contradicting whatever the common opinion is
calling people names is not the same as disapproving their claims
Yeah I’m not interested in your opinion
I didn’t ask
That’s the problem. You gave it anyway without considering that it would be impossible for me to care any less
From what I can see, it seems like their opinions go against the grain of the Lemmy userbase. They don’t seem to be intentionally antagonizing people.
Right, normal people have negative thousands of karma. Thanks for the gaslighting brah
I think you don’t really grasp the concept of a hivemind, where users of a platform tend to have collective set of views deemed acceptable and unacceptable by the community. It doesn’t necessarily make them wrong, it just means that it is a view or opinion that runs contrary to that of the community. Reddit was a shit show for that (and I know you came from there due to your use of karma), and Lemmy has it too. The entire purpose of the up vote/downvote system is to increase/decrease comment ranking based on users perception of comment quality, though people tend to use it to show disapproval (as you did with my previous comment). There is no "normal’ when it comes to this, as it is entirely dependent on the instance and subcommunity’s collective views.
Furthermore, let me introduce you to the actual definition of gaslighting, per Merriam Webster:
Now, in what way did I gaslight you?
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Nope, you are in denial about it or lying about it on purpose. As the other replies mentioned, what I said was independently verified as true.