Fired Mid-Season:

  • Josh McDaniels (LV Raiders)
  • Frank Reich (CAR Panthers)
  • Brandon Staley (LA Chargers)

Fired Post-Season:

  • Arthur Smith (ATL Falcons)
  • Ron Rivera (WAS Commanders)
  • Mike Vrabel (TEN Titans) [Thanks Nusm@lemmy.zip]
  • Pete Carroll (SEA Seahawks)
  • Bill Belichick (NE Patriots)

Add any new firings or anything I missed and I’ll add them.

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    11 months ago

    I think the redeeming quality is getting a known good player that can put points on the board. Again, it’s not “future cap”. We’re not strapped for cash by any measure unless you have something that says to contrary.

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      11 months ago

      Literally everything you spend hits the cap. Every penny you spend* that doesn’t hit this year’s salary cap is future cap space, by definition.

      Borrowing to win 10 games instead of 6 makes it literally impossible that you aren’t a dogshit GM. Any sports personality who even uses the words “real cash spending” is telling you conclusively they know absolutely nothing about how building a team works. It’s a nonsense imaginary number that doesn’t mean anything (and doesn’t include anything incentive based because of when it’s calculated, making it even more idiotic to ever bring up in a discussion ever).

      *except specific veteran minimum contracts, which count as a slightly lower number to keep the veteran minimum from costing guys jobs.

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        11 months ago

        Not really. There are ways to wiggle around with bonuses and other financial tricks to sneak past cap. All that aside, you’ve said that we’ve cursed our future selves with past signings to which I literally cannot find on any cap statement anywhere. We’ve even had the coach saying we spend low and the owner explicitly stating that money is not a problem. Can you show me any source anywhere that indicates that the Pats are in a financial situation that makes them uncompetitive for offensive players in free agency? Are you perhaps just making a generic statement that we shouldn’t be competitive in free agency because it costs money? If so, that’s a weird one when it’s been proven that we have $100m less on the books than the Ravens.

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          11 months ago

          All of those tricks change timing. None of them prevent the money from hitting the salary cap eventually. Excluding the veteran exception I mentioned last post, everything you spend hits the cap at some point.

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            11 months ago

            You’ve yet to point to anything that indicates we’re at risk of being non-compliant with the cap. I’ve never said “blow the whole cap” but have really just emphasized that we needed something, anything to act as a kickstart on offense. It’s just a flat out GM failure to build this team without a single pro bowler.

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              11 months ago

              I never claimed anything about being non compliant with the cap. I said money you waste now is money you can’t spend later.

              The fact that you think the Pro Bowl means something is as damning as thinking cash spending means anything. You’re not qualified to have the most casual discussion about football. You don’t even have a surface level understanding of the basics of how the league works.

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                11 months ago

                Okay, thanks for not making a meaningful point and just deciding to insult me. Turns out my POV is what the organization cares about, rather than accepting a mediocre team like you think we should.

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                  11 months ago

                  You didn’t make a meaningful point a single time at any point. You parroted radio idiots whose literal entire job is to prove how stupid they are to create drama.

                  The combination of “cash spending” and referencing the Pro Bowl, in and of itself, is proof that it is not possible to have even a surface level conversation about the sport. It’s like debating science with a flat earther. It can’t be done and it’s a waste of everyone’s time. There’s no possibility of intelligence underneath.

                  They pulled the trigger to hire Mayo, because he’s special, not fire Bill.

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                    11 months ago

                    All I said was that we needed to be more aggressive and get some sort of good player to anchor a team around and you made up the rest, insinuating that we were strapped for cash or that a 2-year deal would somehow annihilate the far future. You’re out of your mind to somehow forgive the dogshit team building that has happened. Best of luck to you though since you wanna keep feeling really smart but making up shit.