Speaking for my country, uh idk, don’t think anyone here’s a slave. Occasionally you hear of some sketchy work practices, usually involving underpaid immigrant workers at restaurants but those issues are quickly dealt with.
How many societies had to be destroyed for your country to become what it is now?
None as far as I’m aware. We were first exploited by the swedish empire and later by the rus*ian empire. After which we were destroyed twice by soviets and barely scraped against the nazis. So I’d say we were on the colonized side of history rather than the exploiting colonial one, the swedish speaking population here still owns way more than the rest of the country - relatively speaking - as often is the case in exploited countries as old money never really dies out even if the underlying society progresses past it. Of course I’m glossing over a ton of historical events here and straightening out corners, but I’m happy with the answer.
Czechoslovakia was leaning capitalist and prosperous before the Nazis and then Soviets invaded, both leaning much more leftist, and surpressing the people.
In my opinion yes, but you’re free to have your own definitions for left and right since historians and economists alike disagree on their definitions too.
My definitions are basically, leftistism is collective control of the means of production. Rightism is individual control. The left is therefore a much more broas category as collective control can take a ton of different forms.
So you are actually equating a central authority with political left! That is very interesting to see how far the liberal propaganda went to brainwash people.
Well, I’m living in a country that’s turning fascist. It prides itself for being the country of the human rights yet it’s being condemned by EU human rights tribunal regularly.
In 50 years it was on a turbo run for liberalism. What this gave us is more poverty, more riches inequalities, less public services, mental health problems, and fascism might be our next government. Congratulation capitalism! Go on!
I’m not advocating for fascism btw. But it is a fact that the winners or capitalism are turning their countries into fascist ones.
I think you fail to realize liberalism has multiple contextual definitions, depending largely on location, and that neoliberalism is largely criticized by progressives.
The only thing funnier than stupid people who don’t realize they’re stupid is stupid people who are convinced they’re intelligent and can’t shut up about it.
Speaking for my country, uh idk, don’t think anyone here’s a slave. Occasionally you hear of some sketchy work practices, usually involving underpaid immigrant workers at restaurants but those issues are quickly dealt with.
None as far as I’m aware. We were first exploited by the swedish empire and later by the rus*ian empire. After which we were destroyed twice by soviets and barely scraped against the nazis. So I’d say we were on the colonized side of history rather than the exploiting colonial one, the swedish speaking population here still owns way more than the rest of the country - relatively speaking - as often is the case in exploited countries as old money never really dies out even if the underlying society progresses past it. Of course I’m glossing over a ton of historical events here and straightening out corners, but I’m happy with the answer.
You’re still in the honeymoon phase with capitalism. You’ll see in a few decades.
Czechoslovakia was leaning capitalist and prosperous before the Nazis and then Soviets invaded, both leaning much more leftist, and surpressing the people.
The nazis are leftists now? That’s basically political illiteracy.
In my opinion yes, but you’re free to have your own definitions for left and right since historians and economists alike disagree on their definitions too.
My definitions are basically, leftistism is collective control of the means of production. Rightism is individual control. The left is therefore a much more broas category as collective control can take a ton of different forms.
Nazis weren’t left even by this definition.
Yes they were. They were corporatist, and exercised significant control on the economy.
So you are actually equating a central authority with political left! That is very interesting to see how far the liberal propaganda went to brainwash people.
I’m equating central planning with leftism yes. Because no one denies a free market is right-wing, so leftism must contradict that.
Damn it is hard for fascists to admit being wrong, isn’t it? Looking at yours and the other guys’ squirming is nearly cringe.
Well, I’m living in a country that’s turning fascist. It prides itself for being the country of the human rights yet it’s being condemned by EU human rights tribunal regularly.
In 50 years it was on a turbo run for liberalism. What this gave us is more poverty, more riches inequalities, less public services, mental health problems, and fascism might be our next government. Congratulation capitalism! Go on!
I’m not advocating for fascism btw. But it is a fact that the winners or capitalism are turning their countries into fascist ones.
So it was liberal, and everything was good, and now it’s turning fascist and everything’s turning bad?
Read my first messages again now and think.
The irony here is palpable.
I think you fail to realize liberalism has multiple contextual definitions, depending largely on location, and that neoliberalism is largely criticized by progressives.
As opposed to what? You didn’t think did you?
The only thing funnier than stupid people who don’t realize they’re stupid is stupid people who are convinced they’re intelligent and can’t shut up about it.
Thanks for the laughs!
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