This means 90% of the year is spent on remote work, and the remaining 10% is dedicated to employee off-site events.
I think that’s about right. Maybe a couple days per quarter for a department, and then a few days a year with the whole company together. Enough to get a good rapport with your coworkers, but not so much you hate traveling for work.
“If you trust people and treat them like adults, they’ll behave like adults. Trust over surveillance,” said Houston.
If you give people good metrics to hit, they’ll hit them. If you don’t have good metrics then you rely on seeing asses in seats to know if people are working.
If you give people good metrics to hit, they’ll hit them. If you don’t have good metrics then you rely on seeing asses in seats to know if people are working.
By the same token, if you give them stupid-ass metrics you create your own turnover.
I worked for a call center that had metrics based on prior month performance. If you didn’t match, you were out. Okay, fine, except this was retail. Oh, you didn’t take as many calls in January as you did in December? You’re out.
Welcome to corporate reality. It’s all run by idiots.
Actually this makes sense from a corporate asshole perspective: the need for call center employees is seasonal. So you hire call center employees before the holiday season, and then the system auto-fires all the excess employees for missing their quota after the end of the season.
The problem with that is it applies throughout the year. Those weren’t the only unattainable metrics.
To give you an idea of what this place was like, I was shitcanned because I spent too much time in “UNAVAILABLE” status. For two whole days I was “UNAVAILABLE.” It was on the last day of one month and the first day of the following month. When the next review came up I was auto-termed because I missed my “AVAILABLE” numbers two months in a row.
I was “UNAVAILABLE” because I had been promoted and was in training for two days. My trainer told me to be “UNAVAILABLE.”
Apparently that wasn’t a good enough reason for being “UNAVAILABLE.” Rather than correcting it or even trying to stick up for me my manager gave me a “Sorry, nothing I can do.”
Nordstrom, by the way. Garbage company. Do not work for them.
I mean, you get your opinion, but I just disagree.
Remote means Remote.
Being forced to stand in a field and eat hot dogs with my coworkers doesn’t accomplish anything but subject me to learning things I shouldn’t need to know about my coworkers and being forced to share things I don’t want to share with my coworkers.
I have never once attended a “team building” event and liked my coworkers more after.
In fact, the opposite happens. I learn who is religious. I learn who is racist. I learn who denies climate change. I learn who is a horrible parent bit thinks they are the best parent.
I’m not friends with my coworkers. I cowork with them, and as a data analyst/process Automator, I can do that through zoom.
Why do you automatically assume it’s a problem with them and not a shit-tier HR team whose idea of teambuilding is a fucking pizza party for 40 year old software engineers?
Do you like shit-tier pizza parties? Are you just a generally easy to please person? Do you expect no more than the bare fucking minimum from life?
Because the people responding, myself included, don’t get sent to a pizza party for a team building. Probably way higher end, and they are reflecting on that
I think that’s about right. Maybe a couple days per quarter for a department, and then a few days a year with the whole company together. Enough to get a good rapport with your coworkers, but not so much you hate traveling for work.
If you give people good metrics to hit, they’ll hit them. If you don’t have good metrics then you rely on seeing asses in seats to know if people are working.
By the same token, if you give them stupid-ass metrics you create your own turnover.
I worked for a call center that had metrics based on prior month performance. If you didn’t match, you were out. Okay, fine, except this was retail. Oh, you didn’t take as many calls in January as you did in December? You’re out.
Welcome to corporate reality. It’s all run by idiots.
Actually this makes sense from a corporate asshole perspective: the need for call center employees is seasonal. So you hire call center employees before the holiday season, and then the system auto-fires all the excess employees for missing their quota after the end of the season.
The problem with that is it applies throughout the year. Those weren’t the only unattainable metrics.
To give you an idea of what this place was like, I was shitcanned because I spent too much time in “UNAVAILABLE” status. For two whole days I was “UNAVAILABLE.” It was on the last day of one month and the first day of the following month. When the next review came up I was auto-termed because I missed my “AVAILABLE” numbers two months in a row.
I was “UNAVAILABLE” because I had been promoted and was in training for two days. My trainer told me to be “UNAVAILABLE.”
Apparently that wasn’t a good enough reason for being “UNAVAILABLE.” Rather than correcting it or even trying to stick up for me my manager gave me a “Sorry, nothing I can do.”
Nordstrom, by the way. Garbage company. Do not work for them.
I bet they had a huge amount of turnover in March because they couldn’t hit February’s numbers in January
I mean, you get your opinion, but I just disagree.
Remote means Remote.
Being forced to stand in a field and eat hot dogs with my coworkers doesn’t accomplish anything but subject me to learning things I shouldn’t need to know about my coworkers and being forced to share things I don’t want to share with my coworkers.
I have never once attended a “team building” event and liked my coworkers more after.
In fact, the opposite happens. I learn who is religious. I learn who is racist. I learn who denies climate change. I learn who is a horrible parent bit thinks they are the best parent.
I’m not friends with my coworkers. I cowork with them, and as a data analyst/process Automator, I can do that through zoom.
That sounds like a you problem. I’ve had a great time at all of them.
I mean sure.
So are you saying you are a proponent of causing a problem for me? Because you have a great time, you endorse forcing me to go against my will?
I guess I’m not saying “don’t do team building”, I’m saying “don’t force people who don’t want to go to go.”
If I am doing my job, and I am remote, why are you compelled to fuck around with me and make me uncomfortable for 10% of my work obligation?
Why do you automatically assume it’s a problem with them and not a shit-tier HR team whose idea of teambuilding is a fucking pizza party for 40 year old software engineers?
Do you like shit-tier pizza parties? Are you just a generally easy to please person? Do you expect no more than the bare fucking minimum from life?
Because the people responding, myself included, don’t get sent to a pizza party for a team building. Probably way higher end, and they are reflecting on that
Or maybe a different industry? Or maybe… get this… HRs FUCKING SUCK.
I don’t care who you are, free pizza is a gift I will accept any day. It will beat anything else I would be bringing in for lunch.
I wonder what your coworkers discover about you…😜
Probably nothing they like.
But when an out of touch CEO isn’t trying to force us to be “a family”, they love my work, and that’s all I care about at WORK.