• jonne
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    I’m still baffled by what Hamas was thinking this thing would achieve. It’s giving Israel the excuse to completely wipe out Gaza. It’s one thing to destroy the wall and attack a military base, but murdering entire villages was only going to have one outcome. It’s like they wanted the opposite of Palestinian liberation.

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      They want to go out in “a blaze of glory” rather than fade away. Israel has been clearing them out slowly and nobody is stopping it, but if Hamas provokes Israel into doing it quickly maybe that will generate enough outrage that the world will try to stop it.

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        1 year ago

        While Israel has been chipping away at Palestinian land in the West Bank, Palestinian population continues to rise, and rise faster than Israeli population at that. And we don’t see the West Bank doing these kind of attacks, only Gaza.

        https://www.statista.com/chart/20645/palestine-and-israel-population-growth/

        Graph showing rise of Palistinian population

        They ain’t fading away, regardless of Israel’s attacks and oppression. The “blaze of glory” is just terrorism.

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      It makes perfect sense if you read up on the history of the conflict, particularly over the last 30 years.

      Palestine’s reward for trying to find a diplomatic solution has been Western-sanctioned destruction and massacre every single time. We westerners have largely ignored that their land has been taken, hospitals and infrastructure bombed, news reporters and civilians shot in cold blood, and no meaningful repercussions for any of it. They’ve even been blockaded for sixteen years.

      Think of it like a smaller-scale Tet Offensive. It didn’t seem to make a ton of sense for the Vietnamese to launch an offensive against the South Vietnam and their powerful allies either.

      And when you consider how unreasonable it is for 1.1 million people to evacuate in a day, remember also that these people aren’t allowed out in the first place.

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      My guess is that they wanted to provoke Israel into attacking, hoping that the rest of the nations in the area would use the atrocities as a justification to attack Israel.

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        They must know that the support for Palestinians by neighbouring countries has only been limited to lip service by most Arab countries for decades. They’re all too happy to buy Israeli tech to spy on their own populations, that’s basically the bargain they made to stay in power.

        There’s basically only Iran and Lebanon that are actual “allies”, and that’s basically more Iran using those groups to make things difficult for the US, and not anything that would actually help Palestinians.

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      They’re doing the Hitler strategy of taking everyone on the ship down with them, in the hope that it will inspire extremists elsewhere, and to inspire future generations to do the same because surely they are the victims here. Didn’t work out that way for Germany in the end now did it?

      Also, I’m not saying that Israel is in anyway justified erasing 1.000.000 people off the map. They are also terrible.

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      I think the fact that they bothered to take hostages shows they must have believed they could force Israel to agree to their terms

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      This is what I don’t get either. Israel’s reaction is 100% predictable. They knew their attack would result in thousands of their own people getting killed. Did they have an objective that they thought would help improve the lives of Palestinians living in Gaza?

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        If Hamas attacks Israel, Israel’s current gov stays in power. If Israel attacks Hamas, Hamas stays in power.

        It’s in the interest of all in power to keep this going. Peace destroys both their political platforms.