• andy_wijaya_med@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Live in a not so small town in Germany. I haven’t had the need to have a car after I have been living for 9 years.

    I commute with bike to work, take public transport when it’s a farther journey.

    Until I have a daughter a couple of months ago. I realize that I really need a car. :(

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      9 months ago

      It’s hard to have a baby without a car. It’s for sleep, for nappy changing, your closet and your pantry. Those first few years especially. If you need one even for a few years it’s totally understandable.

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        9 months ago

        Yeah. It’s very difficult. Going to pediatrician for example. Or if it’s raining. It’s so troublesome to bring a baby with a bike in that situation.

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      9 months ago

      Even in America, I have seen a fair few parents carrying their kids around by bike. It seems it’s not totally impossible, though you may need to put your bike through some upgrades.

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        9 months ago

        I don’t dare to bring my now 3 months old baby with bike. The weather is still "summer"y now. In winter I wouldn’t do it. I myself have fallen down from bikes at least 4 times in the last couple of years. I can’t imagine if that happens while I’m taking my baby with bike.

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        9 months ago

        It’s possible, but it’s really obnoxious and shitty. Especially if the weather is too cold for a new born to be outside.

        New born parents is one of the few true excuses to use a car over a bike, imo.

        But that’s okay, we’ll still need roads for emergency services anyway so it’s okay if some people use them.

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        9 months ago

        I bet those people are doing it for economic reasons, not environmental ones. A bicycle is probably the most dangerous form of transportation for you to have your kid on.

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          9 months ago

          How us bicycle more dangerous than cars?

          Sure cars have all the safety features for people on the inside, but on a bike you’re exposed to much slower speeds and better field of view. Bike accidents have much smaller fatality rate than car accidents.

          Unless of course you mean cycling among cars is less safe, but that argument just confirms that cars are unsafe, not bikes. Bikes are not dangerous. Cars are.

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          9 months ago

          It wouldn’t be any dangerous if car and bike infrastructure was structurally separated (and if there were far fewer cars).

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                9 months ago

                Of course, but if my vehicle was the only vehicle in the world, I’d still feel like a 2 year old kid on the back of my bike going 7 miles is more dangerous than on a bus, train, or even a car over the same distance.

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                  9 months ago

                  Fair enough, a seat on the back is the least safe option to transport kids.

                  There are options like this though. Seatbelts, low position, side walls.

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                    9 months ago

                    I don’t mind this too much, but I’d want more padding for the kid and an extra wheel in the back for stability.