No surprises here. Just like the lockdown on iPhone screen and part replacements, Macbooks suffer from the same Apple’s anti-repair and anti-consumer bullshit. Battery glued, ssd soldered in and can’t even swap parts with other official parts. 6000$ laptop and you don’t even own it.

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    My analogy was not flawed. I was referring to my experience, while at work in / around warehouses while doing large installs between 2015-2017. What I wrote, was my experience. I literally watched people having to carry their charges out with them knowing their laptops were not gonna make a couple hours, much less a full shift. Also had their mice because we’ll, windows touchpads are not a replacement for a mouse.

    I’m not saying there were not better windows machines available, I’m saying at work what windows laptops they were using always seemed to struggle with battery life, were “ok” screens at best.

    I’ve also still never owned a windows laptop that has a touchpad as good as a MacBook. I’ve also not searched for one. The HP360 I had had a “decent” one but still not as good as my experience with MacBooks.

    I still don’t like apple I still build use windows PCs as my primary device and 100% it’s easier to use a windows machine for it’s general compatibility of apps, both old and new.

    I still like my MacBook Air, and my work MacBook pro (s) more than any previous work or home LAPTOP I’ve owned.

    My work laptop at 4yo still had about 6h battery, and I was not wanting/needing a replacement. Most of my coworkers, including my personal experience were counting the days to get a new laptop once the warranty expired at 3y.

    I do know that after I started using a MBP at work the windows laptops did get significantly better battery life and overall didn’t seem to wear out as fast as the old ones, but I had no desire to switch back.

    Keep in mind that my use case / experience with laptops is only as a primary device at work. At home all our laptops have been portable devices for general use, taking on a trip etc. So the need (at home) for it to do everything doesn’t exist for US.

    No doubt, owning a MacBook in a windows house has its challenges. It was quite a pain getting printing working. Ultimately had.ti spin up a docker print server that supported airprint so I could print to my Multifunction Brother printer. That doesn’t, however change my general opinion of the MacBook hardware and ease of use as a laptop compared to my experience with Windows machines.

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        Again, my point was initially in response to you associating build quality with the materials chosen. I don’t believe those are related how you represented them.

        My two MBPs I used for work, (including a windows 10 vm on parallels) managed to get a lot done over the years well beyond browsing the web.

        I was/am not arguing about which OS has more compatibility, programs etc. That’s a completely different topic. Hell, the M1 was very limited with native apps for a long time.

        As you conseeded, the touchpad is superior. Since I literally use that 95% of the time I’m on a laptop, that’s a pretty big factor in usability. My HP360 was around $1200 (HP Spectre 13t x360) the MBA was $950.

        My HP36 after a few years had to be returned to have it’s motherboard replacement., The one bonus there was they upgraded it from an i5 to an i7 which was nice.

        My second work MBP did have the infamous butterfly keys, and eventually one key started having issues last year. Again as NOT an Apple fan, the machine was under an extended warranty and with permission from work I dealt directly with apple to get it fixed. They sent me a box overnight, I returned it on a Monday, had it back the following Thursday with a new keyboard and battery.

        Everything has good and bad, I think what apple is going to prevent consumers repairing their own stuff is terrible. I still like / have generally had a more pleasant experience using their laptops over Windows machines.

        Completely unrelated, I absolutely hate iPhones though!

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            I’m definitely not trying to sell MacBooks or convince others of that.

            I just like them better then windows for general day to day use especially if you have a windows machine as a backup :)

            I loved the touchpad so much I only ever used that on my work laptops at the office or traveling. I also stopped using secondary monitors in lou of the extended desktops with the ease of swiping to a second, third or whatever all with a easy flick in the touchpad it became unnecessary to have an external monitor for 99% of the time (for me)

            I’m also a long time Linux user so being able to drop into a native shell is pretty nice

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                I’d never call myself a Mac guy though :) I just like MacBooks haha.

                I have tried running various desktop Linux versions over the years, just never stuck with this.

                I ran Debian on my own server, then VPS for years. I currently run Rocky Linux on it.

                But windows definitely has a strangle hold on the market.